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Sometimes you just have to stop pontificating so much about music and just play it. That is what the Saving Country Music Radio podcast is for. Even if you have no time or desire to listen, please pilfer the playlist for ideas for what we’re listening to right now. This episode is co-hosted by Earl Dibbles Jr. (well, sort of), who just released a new single, and prominently features my favorite new album, Eric Strickland’s Honky Tonk Till I Die, as well as songs from albums SCM has reviewed recently, and others we hope to get to soon.
Thanks for listening and remember….
It’s all about the music!
- Eric Strickland – 18 Wheels of Hell on the Highway – from Honky Tonk Till I Die
- Marty Stuart – Hollywood Boogie – from Nashville, Vol. 1 – Tear The Woodpile Down
- Sara Watkins – The Foothills – from Sun Midnight Sun
- The Turnpike Troubadours – Gone, Gone, Gone – from Goodbye Normal St.
- Joseph Huber – Fell Off The Wagon – from Tongues of Fire
- Tom VandenAvond – Wreck of a Fine Man – from Wreck of a Fine Man
- Lee Baines & The Glory Fires – Reba – from There’s a Bomb in Gillead
- Left Lane Cruiser & James Leg – Chevrolet – from Painkillers
- Earl Dibbles Jr. – The Country Boy Song
- Marty Stuart & Hank3 – Pictures from Life’s Other Side – from Nashville, Vol. 1 – Tear The Woodpile Down
- Tillford Sellers & The Wagon Burners – Sippy’s Lament – from Heartaches, Lies and Cheating Songs
- McDougall – The Travels of Fredrick Tolls, Part 2 -from A Few Towns More
- Willie Nelson – A Horse Called Music – from Heroes
- JB Beverley & The Wayward Drifters – Shoulda Thought About It – from Dark Bar & a Juke Box
- Big Boss Twang – Kenworth Kenny – from Big Boss Twang
- Eric Strickland – Drinking Whiskey – from Honky Tonk Till I Die
- Justin Townes Earle – It Won’t Be The Last Time – from Nothing’s Gonna Change The Way You Feel About Me Now
This week in Nashville the Country Radio Seminar is happening, a four day event bringing together radio industry folks, along with some artists and musicians. On Wednesday afternoon, an extensive study on the behavior of country’s radio listeners conducted by Edison Research was released to the conference that included some alarming statistics for traditional country radio, including that 1 in 5 country fans don’t listen to radio, and instead liste to iPods, to internet radio, or other alternatives.
One of the causes of this trend according to the president of Edison Research Larry Rosin is that country radio is under-serving it’s classic country fans. 1 in 6 country music fans say that classic country from the 60′s and 70′s is their “favorite” of all the country music types, yet this music is very rarely played on today’s country radio.
“I believe that we as an industry have really made a mistake in our conception of our own stations,” Rosin said according to The Tennessean. “While many people don’t want to listen to classic country music, some still do, and we’ve let them float away…We run the risk that we just are more and more pleasing to fewer and fewer people until all we are is ecstatically pleasing a tiny, unsustainable number of people.”
One of the long suspected causes between the discrepancy of what radio listeners want, and what they get is the massive consolidation happening in radio, specifically with large media corporations like Clear Channel and Cumulus buying up local radio stations, in many instances owning up to five radio stations per market, and trading out local programming for nationally syndicated radio talent. In October 2011, Clear Channel made massive cuts in small, regional radio markets, which potentially effected country music more than others formats because of country’s concentration of rural, small market listeners.
Yet the CEO of Clear Channel Radio Bob Pittman who was a Wednesday keynote speaker at the Country Radio Seminar seemed to paint a very different picture from the Edison Research study, and championed the idea of replacing local DJ talent with national names. “It’s like television.” Pittman said, “If you’ve got Jay Leno, he’s better than the local guy.” He also praised the rock sold strength and reach of radio, even though Clear Channel itself is roughly $20 billion in debt.
Large media companies like Clear Channel seem to be caught in a dilemma. As they deal with dwindling revenues from radio, they attempt to save costs by consolidating programming through cutting local talent and replacing it with National talent already paid for. But as the Edison Research report points out, this trend might be turning off many of country radio’s traditional listeners. It’s a catch 22, where Clear Channel’s solution for dealing with declining revenue might be exacerbating the problem.
The music industry was dealing with massive declining revenue over the last 8 years until in 2011 the industry surprisingly stabilized. The question now is, will the radio industry be able to do what the recording industry did and pull out of their tailspin, or is the solution they’ve constructed to deal with less radio users only aiding their fall?
I am excited to announce that Saving Country Music now has a home on the radio every Saturday night! It’s called “Saving Country Music Radio”, and it is making its debut run TONIGHT (4-2-11) at 9 PM Central, 10 Eastern, on The Real Deal, KOOK 93.5 FM 1230 AM, in the heart of the Texas Hill country. But of course, since most of you don’t live in the Texas Hill Country, you can access the live stream of the station right here, or by clicking on the black and gold KOOK icon in the right column of every page on the website.
Saving Country Music Radio will be an audio version of this website, promoting and talking about the great independent, up-and-coming, and underground bands and artists, while making sure the legacy of country music is preserved as well. Playlists for each show will be archived at http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/radio, with links to all the bands played and discussed, and the shows will be archived there in their entirety as well, probably about a week after their initial airing.
I want to give a huge thanks to “Big G” Gordon Ames, the Big Cheese of The Real Deal for giving me this opportunity to expose a brand new audience to the music we all know and love. He has been a good friend for years, and I am excited to finally be able to work with him directly.
And for fans/listeners of SCM LIVE, don’t worry, nothing is going to change there. We will still be doing our weekly podcasts and live broadcasts. The idea with SCM Radio is to reach even more people with this music. Eventually we may open the SCM LIVE chat room during the show, but right now we are working on a new chat room, so we will probably skip that, at least for the first few weeks (let me know below in the comments if anyone has a desire for a live chat with this). Incidentally the chat room WILL be open this Sunday (4-3) for The ACM Awards, so people can stop by a hoot on the pop country frivolity!
I am very excited about this, so please give a listen to The Real Deal Saturday night if you have a chance, and let me know what you think. And ANYTIME you have a hankering for listening to the radio, you should listen to The Real Deal!
I am very excited to announce that the podcast legend by the name of Tim Pop is moving his “Rebel Rouser” country music podcast to SCM LIVE!
Rebel Rouser is an hour-long weekly podcast that mixes old-school, classic country music with the new school underground stuff. It may be new to you and SCM LIVE, but Tim Pop is already done over 60 episodes of Rebel Rouser over on the Real Punk Radio network. The show will air Thursday nights at 9 PM Eastern, 8 Central, and will be preceded by Reverend Nix’s “Mojo Medicine Show”, which has been moved from Fridays to Thursdays, starting at 8 Eastern, 7 Central.
Reverend Nix already sets the table on Wednesdays for the flagship of SCM LIVE, Outlaw Radio Chicago, so now there will be two nights a week where you can listen to great music, and if want, hang out in the chat room and enjoy the camaraderie that has made Saving Country Music one of the strongest online communities country music can boast.
I have known Tim Pop, and have been listening to his podcasts for over three years. I first heard about his main podcast “Tim Pop Live” from Rachel Brooke through MySpace. Tim Pop is based in Detroit, and is good friends with Rachel & Junk (aka Brooks Robbins) (who have a new side project called “Modern Mal”) The first time I listened to Tim Pop Live was less than two weeks after I had started Free Hank III, the organization that eventually morphed into Saving Country Music, and Tim Pop, who didn’t know me from Adam, was talking about it on his podcast. That is when I knew what the power of community and collaboration could do.
Y’all please stop by on Thursday’s if you can, listen a little, hang out in the chat room for a bit. And if Thursday’s are bad for you, or you want to check out what kind of chops Tim Pop has, you can check out previous episodes of Rebel Rouser or Tim Pop Live at www.timpoplive.com.
And don’t forget that THIS SATURDAY Lowebow Fest from Florida will be broadcast on SCM LIVE as well!
Tim Pop is also a lead guitar player. Here he is shredding for the band Switchblade Justice!
Rachel Brooke’s new album Down In The Barnyard has been creating a lot of buzz lately, and on Wednesday she talked with Jashie P of Outlaw Radio Chicago about the album, her upcoming tour with Those Poor Bastards, a proposed 7-inch release on Farmageddon Records, and how Shooter Jennings is helping her with his “XXX” movement.
You can hear the interview in its entirety on Outlaw Radio Episode 134, but for those that would rather read, you can find the meat of the interview transcribed below.
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Jashie P: You released this all by yourself, there’s no label behind you on this one, is there?
Rachel Brooke: No. Farmageddon Records is picking it up. I started working on it kind of right as Farmageddon was coming together. So it’s mostly just a self-release, but Farmageddon is helping me with it, pushing it a little bit, so.
Jashie P: Compare it to your last couple of CD’s, the demos and what not. How did you decide what instruments were going to be on each song?
Rachel Brooke: I’ve always been wanting to be just a vocal and guitar, that’s what I love. But I wanted to start setting it up a little bit. I just mess around with each song for a while to see what I like. Some of them just kind of happened like “Mean Kind Of Blues”. I was like, “I want to write something that’s a little more upbeat, put a guitar on it” and that one came out pretty quick. Same with “Don’t Forget Me When I Die”. I wanted a lot of bluegrass sound on it.
Jashie P: How was the record recorded? Was it self-produced, or did you have producers with you?
Rachel Brooke: I recorded the whole thing at home except for the drums, and my dad’s banjo part. We slowly worked on it, waited until I felt good and was in a good mood, and when the cars weren’t going by outside too much, because one thing that would really upset me is when I’d record and there’s some truck going by. I worked on it slowly at home, then I took it up to my brother’s studio in Traverse City, and he helped me mix it, and fixed a lot of the recording mistakes I made because I’m still learning how to record. He mixed it with me and we mastered it. It took a long time.
Jashie P: It’s on iTunes and Amazon, but really if people got it on there, they’re missing out on the cover art. Why don’t you explain the concept of the cover?
Rachel Brooke: I wanted to do something that represents the music. I had my friend Jessica (Varda), and we went out around where I live. We took a picture in front of this barn, like just off the side of the road because we were going to go ask the people if we could take pictures but they weren’t there or something. I don’t know if they’ll ever see it, they may recognize it, I hope not (laughing). And then I had Katie (Umhoefer), she does all Those Poor Bastards artwork. She worked with me and what I was going for. She did all the design artwork, and she did a great job. I’m so happy with it… It’s inspired by the old-time Carter Family kind of stuff. If you ever look up any of their old photographs, it’s all real simple. And it says a lot. It has a lot of emotion in it, and that’s what I wanted.
Jashie P: Your lyrics are really dark, and a lot of these songs tell stories. “The Legend of Morrow Road” is a 7-minute song that’s a really in-depth story. How do these lyrics come to you?
Rachel Brooke: That song is actually a Michigan legend. It’s not the same. What it is, is I didn’t want to write a ghost story, but I wanted to write a legend kind of thing. So I made up the story behind it. If you look it up there’s actually a place close to where I live called Morrow Road, and it’s just about a ghost that walks around there at night, some girl. To me it was kind of cool, but it needed a story behind it. So I just let it come to me, just let my imagination go and it kind of came together…The Carter Family inspired me a lot for this album because I love their simplicity, and the beauty of it. The way their songs are is just so simple, but so meaningful, and that’s what I wanted to do. Say a lot with just being really simple.
Jashie P: There’s a lot of other female artists popping up, you’ve got Six Gun (Britt), Little Lisa (Dixie), Nellie Wilson. What do you think about the whole resurgence of female artists coming along in this little scene?
Rachel Brooke: I think it’s cool, because it seems like there’s a lot of men, they’re really good. But I think it’s not the same without females. They have a different point of view. Even if it’s about the same situation, a girl’s point of view is completely different. I think females naturally are more emotional and see a little bit deeper into situations, and it’s cool.
Jashie P: You’ve got a big tour coming up with Lonesome Wyatt and Those Poor Bastards. How did all that come about?
Rachel Brooke: Those Poor Bastards were putting a tour together and I was asked if I wanted to come along and I said “yeah”. I know Wyatt pretty well and I think it’s gonna be fun. Right now we’re still making all the dates confirmed. Just keep looking on the website for the dates, because they’re gonna keep coming.
Jashie P: Are you going to do anything from A Bitter Harvest (album with Rachel and Lonesome Wyatt)?
Rachel Brooke: We talked about it, and I’m sure we’ll do a couple.
Jashie P: Is it just going to be you and a guitar again? Or you got a band coming with or anything?
Rachel Brooke: Not this time, I’m just gonna be by myself with a guitar. But I think what I want to do soon is get a band. I think that’s my next step. That’s the plan anyway. I have some people in mind that I really want to work with and I’ve known them for years and grown up with them and I think it would be a perfect fit, it’s just convincing them to do it. And I know they want to, but it’s really got to happen. I’m really trying to push them into doing it.
Jashie P: How many pieces are you looking at?
Rachel Brooke: It’s just gonna be a three piece. It would be me on guitar, another guitarist, and drums. When that comes along, I want to do always an acoustic set, and them bring them up and finish up, you know, blow people away because I really think it’s gonna be that good.
Jashie P: Getting back to A Bitter Harvest, when I talked to Lonesome Wyatt he said there’s a second release being talked about at least. Can you elaborate on that at all?
Rachel Brooke: Yep. We’re still right now working on it, writing some new stuff. I’m waiting for the best ones. It’s gonna happen, but right now we’re just in the beginning of writing… I also want to put out a 7-inch, probably this year with Farmageddon. Me and Darren have been talking about it and I really want to do it because like I said I really want to start introducing an electric show. So what I want to do is a side A, sort of a lo-fi of just me and my guitar like I love, and on side B kind of a high-fi really rocking kind of stuff. Kind of like mean kind of blues, more electric slide kind of stuff.
Jashie P: You were on the front page of givememyxxx.com and Shooter (Jennings) told me he’s been in touch with you. What do you think about what he’s trying to do with the whole XXX thing?
Rachel Brooke: To be honest, I think it’s really cool. I know there’s been some people who don’t think it’s cool, but I don’t see why. I really feel that he loves the bands that are coming out, and what he’s doing is great. I don’t really see the big deal people are making about it. To me it’s like cool, why can’t he try to get something going? I don’t look at it as a side, I look at it as another step. I noticed some negativity, and I don’t know, I don’t look at it like that. For me, I do my music because I want to. I don’t look at it from any other way except for what I want to do, and I think it’s cool that he’s embracing a lot of these bands. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. I think it’s a great thing.
TONIGHT, Saturday (2-19) on Austin City Limits, PBS will be re-running the episode from 2009 of “Willie & The Wheel”, the mashup of Willie Nelson, and the legendary Western Swing band Asleep At The Wheel. At that time, my tip top, rising artist to watch right now Ruby Jane, was a member of “Willie & The Wheel” and performs and is showcased throughout the episode. Only 14-years-old at the time, she not only holds her own on a stage filled with legends like Willie Nelson, Ray Benson, Mickey Raphael, at times she steals the show! You can only imagine where her talent is now, two years later!
You don’t want to miss this episode, if not for Ruby Jane, than for Willie and Ray Benson, but if you do, you can watch the archive of the entire episode.
And then THIS SUNDAY, 2-20-2011, none other than Wayne “The Train” Hancock will be on Saving Country Music’s live streaming channel, aka SCM LIVE, for a streaming video concert, with his full touring band at 6 PM Central! That’s right folks!
This is a special edition of Jashie P’s Outlaw Radio, and it will be coming LIVE from Chicago. Hancock is in the midst of an upper Midwest swing (check dates below) and is stopping by for a performance and interview.
So after your done watching Dale Earnhart Jr. get his ass kicked at the Daytona 500, get a big bowl of popcorn, the refreshment of your choice, duct tape the kids to the bed post and get your ass over here for a FREE Wayne Hancock concert from Jashie P’s living room to yours!
Wayne Hancock tour dates:
The Brass Rail
Ft. Wayne IN
Grand Rapids MI
Oneida Bingo Casino
Green Bay WI
Oneida Bingo Casino
Green Bay WI
High Noon Saloon
On Monday (11-1-10) Jashie P. of Outlaw Radio Chicago met up with the one and only Willie Nelson for a brief but productive interview on Willie’s bus before his performance at the Rialto Square Theatre in Joliet, IL.
Willie talked about how the title for his new album Country Music was a tip of the hat to what he always though country music sounded like, and how he never listens to Sugarland, or most of the other stuff coming out of Music Row.
Outlaw Radio: Why did you name your new album Country Music?
Willie: In my opinion, that is the sound I always thought country music sounded like. And of course it’s changed through the years, but the original sound of country music for me was that sound.
Outlaw Radio: What do you think right now of the current state of country music out of Nashville, out of Music Row, acts like Sugarland?
Willie: Honestly I don’t listen to it so I don’t know (laughing). I just don’t know.
Outlaw Radio: How do you feel being the longest-running country music star going right now? How does that feel to you, and how long are going to keep going?
Willie: Well I don’t know it’s a day to day deal (laughing). As long as people show up and as long as we can show up I hope to do it a long time.
Outlaw Radio: What do you think of this new breed of the underground country scene going . Like I know Hank III pretty well, do you talk to them at all?
Willie: Well I have talked to him and you’re right, he’s the real thing and his dad would be proud, and he’s carrying on the tradition as the Williams family has done forever. And of course in my opinion there was no better writer or singer than Hank.
Interestingly Willie played 5 Hank Williams songs that night, including four in a row, and ending with Hank’s “I Saw The Light.”
Willie also talked about working with Dave Matthews, and his daughter’s band, the flittering, funny and foul-mouthed Folk Uke. You can hear the entirety of the audio from the interview on Outlaw Radio Episode 108, available for listening or download.
Man, do we have a big week in store for SCM Live!
Tonight (11-3) on Outlaw Radio Chicago at 8 PM Central, Jashie P will play an impromptu interview with the one and only Willie Nelson from this weekend, and may answer the question that everyone is asking, “Did you smoke weed with Willie?”
Then on Saturday the mother of all SCM Live events will be going down, as we will be broadcasting Hillgrass Bluebilly’s Launch Party, featuring 7 bands, 2 stages, and 6+ hours of music, all LIVE to anywhere in the world from the Hole in the Wall in Austin, TX!
If at all humanly possible, you should beg, lie, steal, pillage, plunder, filch, whatever it takes to get your ass to Austin to be a part of this event in person. At only $6, this is the music deal of the century. But if you can’t make it and your eyeballs are passing over these words, then you better make sure you get your ass over to SCM Live Saturday night starting at 7 PM (with a preshow maybe staring sometime between 6 and 7) and be a part of this historic event. And don’t be afraid to poke your head into the chat room as well, where you can share your passion for this music with folks from around the world!
It’s almost easier to say who is NOT playing than who is, but here’s the dizzying lineup and times:
8:00: THE BOOMSWAGGLERS
9:00pm ROGER WALLACE
9:45pm TEN FOOT POLECATS
11:30pm LARRY & HIS FLASK
12:30am POSSESSED BY PAUL JAMES
I am happy, proud, and humbled to announced that two of the best podcasts out there, Outlaw Radio Chicago hosted by Jashie P, and The Reverend Nix shows of Stink Finger Radio and the Mojo Medicine Show are now permanent fixtures (till I figure out how to screw it up) of the SCM LIVE media channel. Outlaw Radio has been archiving their show on the site for a while, but now it will be broadcast here LIVE!
The radio gold goes down every Wednesday starting at 7 PM Central with Rev. Nix’s Stink Finger Radio, featuring homemade music from homegrown people: the best in cigar box guitar, deep roots, muddy roots, slippery roots, and boiled and sauteed roots music. Next comes the best, longest-running REAL country weekly podcast, Outlaw Radio at 8 PM.
Also Reverend Nix does the two-hour Mojo Medicine Show starting at 3 PM Central every Friday.
There’s lots of big things in the works for SCM Live, and don’t forget that TODAY (10-5) we have a very cool event going down at 7 PM Central, as Whitey Morgan & The 78′s debut their new album in its entirety, on vinyl!
Also be looking for a new episode of The Roundtable coming very soon, and maybe a SCM Live Gospel show on Sundays? Stay tuned.
**Update** This has been moved to October 5th!
Whitey Morgan & The 78′s self-entitled album through Bloodshot Records will not be out until October 12th, but you can get a first listen to the album next Tuesday, Oct. 5th on SCM LIVE at 8 PM Eastern!
But wait, it gets even better. This first listen isn’t gonna be some uber-compressed Mp3 type stuff. Oh no. This bad boy is gonna be done by the magic of needle on VINYL for that true, warm, analog sound! This is all being brought to you by Misfit Radio out of Michigan who will be your guide though this album that was recorded at Levon Helm’s studio in Woodstock. Along with some great originals, it includes songs from Hank Cochran, Johnny Paycheck, and Dale Watson. So konk the kiddos out some cough medicine, and come hang out with us in the chat room and listen to some cool tunes!
Video shot at SXSW:
Last Sunday in Chicago an amazing show went down featuring Six Gun Britt, Last False Hope, and one of the fastest rising bands in country, Hellbound Glory. Afterward Jashie P. of Outlaw Radio Chicago (and Last False Hope) sat down with Hellbound Glory’s Leroy Virgil for an interview. I have transcribed the meat of it below, but you can listen to it in is entirety on Episode 109 at savingcountrymusic.com/outlaw-radio.
Outlaw Radio broadcasts LIVE every Wednesday night at 8 PM Central on scrubradio.com, and each show is archived right here.
Outlaw Radio: You’ve had some write-up from some pretty good sources. What do you think of all this attention your new album has been getting?
Leroy: I don’t know, I dig it man. I don’t write the songs just to sit there and sing them for my old lady and friends back in Reno. You know I write them because I want people to hear it, hear my story and what I think of the world, you know. And hopefully try to connect with people in some way. So yeah, I’m honored and extremely proud.
Leroy: Some of the songs on Old Highs are older than the songs on Scumbag. I’ve been writing country songs for so long, you have them stored away. I wrote “Hard Livin’ Man” when I was 19, and I wrote “Hank Williams Records’ when I was 21 and had recorded them prior, and yeah, I just didn’t like the recordings. So I wanted to put together all my best songs about a period in my life with a divorce, a heavy drug addiction, heavy drinking, and just a rough patch in my life. Old Highs is really looking back and saying “Man, I was really messing up.”
Outlaw Radio: Do you think you guys will ever kick it into the mainstream scene at all?
Leroy: I try not to think about it all that much man. Trying to write better songs all the time. My whole thing is I just want to write the best songs about my own life that I could possibly. So whether it sounds Nashville or anything like that, its just me. In terms of just the craft of songwriting, I don’t want to sound like anybody. I want to make my own sound, my own words, sing my own stuff. We get a lot of comparisons to Hank Williams III because of the lyrical content, but to be honest with you I’ve been writing about drugs and booze since I was 16 because drugs and booze have always taken a pretty big part of my life. Now that I’m older, I’m not trying to settle down, but there’s more to life than just being self destructive, and there’s more to life than writing about that sort of stuff. You know, trying to learn to think about things a little more deeply.
Outlaw Radio: You’ve got a kid on the way you told me yesterday so congratulations on that. What does your wife think about you being on the road and everything else.
Leroy: My wife is just the coolest woman. She’s a music fan. She’s a fellow lost soul like me. Any talk of quitting music she’s like “no fucking way.”
Outlaw Radio: This is a question I ask most first-time interviewees. What do you think of the state of so called country music right now?
Leroy: I think it’s all about the songs, I don’t care whose singing them so much. If its a good song its a good song. A lot of these Nashville hits that come out, if it was just some dude playing an acoustic guitar and singing in your living room you’d say “Man, that’s actually a pretty good song.” One thing I will say is, where’s the outsider, other than Jamey Johnson? Having said that Alan Jackson can bring me to tears man. He’s just a guy writing about his own life. That is what country music is supposed to be about.
Outlaw Radio: What on the horizon for Hellbound Glory?
Leroy: I’m writing all sorts of new stuff. For the Hellbound Glory thing, and stuff on my own, maybe a little bit more laid back. Hellbound Glory is gonna go in and start recording a new album. I’ve got so many songs just sitting around. We just don’t have the money to record all the songs basically. We’re limited by our funds. Because if we had the money we’d have a new album out about every six months.
Outlaw Radio: Is there any label interest in you guys?
Leroy: We’ve talked with a few labels and its not really panning out right now. Who knows if we want to go with a label?
On Thursday (8-26), former body double, current heartfelt songwriter, and overall general badass Tonya Watts will be chatting LIVE with YOU, if you so choose. The deal will go down at 7 PM time of the Central persuasion, in the live chat room of www.am1670.org. This will all transpire during the airing of the Highwaywoman Radio Show starring Brigitte London, and this episode will include an interview with Miss Tonya as well.
Among other things you could discuss with Tonya might be her upcoming California tour dates, which include a reunion of the quasi supergroup “It Came From Nashville” that includes Tonya, Waylon Payne, Travis Howard, and Austin Hanks.
Today (6-23-10) Jashie P of Outlaw Radio Chicago celebrates his 100th episode of podcast gold. I’m not exactly sure what this episode is going to entail, it’s all going to be a big surprise, but apparently there’s going to be guests and call ins and all sorts of other stuff being done by people of questionable sobriety.
The rumor is too that the show before Outlaw Radio, Stink Finger Radio also has some big plans to celebrate #100, so you will want to tune in early. Stink Finger broadcasts live at 8 PM Eastern on scrubradio.com, and then Outlaw Radio follows at 9 PM Eastern. Me and many other familiar faces will be hanging out in the Live Chat room as well, so don’t be afraid to poke your head in and say hello.
This is one you don’t want to miss, but as always if you do you can catch it archived the next day at the newly revamped savingcountrymusic.com/outlaw-radio. If you hadn’t noticed, we’ve now added a new MP3 player so you can easily scan through all the episodes and see the guests for each show, and as always you can still download each episode by scrolling to the bottom of the page.
See you in the chat room!
Lately I’ve been bitching that since the death of MySpace the REAL country tribe has been scattered so to speak. We used to all be on the same page, communication was not an issue, and we felt like one big family, dysfunctional as it might have been. Well there’s still one place where we can all come together and recapture that magic, and that is Wednesday nights on the podcast network Scrub Radio. Staring at 8 PM Eastern, the music starts rolling, and the live chat room fills up with the same faces you see around here in the comments section, as well as on MySpace, Facebook, etc.
It starts off with Stink Finger Radio at 8 ET, featuring the BEST in cigar box guitar music and other handmade specialties. You may think it sounds like a one trick pony that would grow old, but on the contrary. It gets your blood pumping with muddy water and gets you ready for Outlaw Radio Chicago at 9 ET where Jashie P highlights the best and newest music in the REAL country movement, as well as great guests.
This week Outlaw Radio will be talking with Jason, organizer of the Muddy Roots Festival, as well as Pearls Mahone, who performed there. I know a lot of people have work/family stuff they got to deal with, but if you have the time, stop by, hang out in the live chat room, it’s good times.
Muddy Roots Jason is also the guest on the latest White Trash Revival episode, so check that out as well.
And if you haven’t made it over there yet, It Burns When I Pee podcast has released their 3 Year Anniversary Show.
So many podcasts, so little time.
For those that missed the Hank III interviews with Outlaw Radio Chicago and Big G of the Real Deal, they are now both archived, HERE and HERE. But for those who are unable or willing to listen to the full interviews, below you will find a summation of the meatier nuggets:
From Outlaw Radio:
Jashie P: The big ol deal going on right now is that this is the last album with Curb.
Hank III: I’m just trying to move on with my career and not having my creativity held back. I’ve got about 5 months to go, and then I’ll be on my own. Then a whole new batch of songs will be getting together, and I’m gonna call in a lot of my friends, and looking for a new breath of fresh air.
Jashie P: You are one of the most talked about artists online. Some people are saying that now that he’s done with Curb there won’t be any more country, no more Damn Band.
Hank III: Naw, I’ll always be doing what I do. As long as I can maintain the show like I want to deliver it, the show will go on. I will always be putting out the country and all kinds of different stuff. This is just the last major label record. There a whole slew of stuff getting ready to come out. Once I get to start writing, that’s the big thing.
Jashie P: You don’t have anything set aside right now for your first independent release?
Hank III: Nothing exists because if I wrote a song right now, who would own it? So I have nothing. My creative freedom has been held back for YEARS. Once my time is done, like I said man it’s gonna be a breath of fresh air for me to hit a stride.
Jashie P: Right out of the gate, in five months what will be your first release?
Hank III: It might be probably both (country and heavy metal) at the same time. I would like within a month to have two releases on both sides of the coin man. There’s also gonna be all kinds of different stuff too, not even, I don’t even know what you’d classify it as.
Jashie P: Give me a little history behind the song “Karmageddon”
Hank III: Warren and Tommy have been friends of mine even since I was 15 years old. I used to live with that family. They are big in the music community. Me and Warren are friends and once in a while will write together. They asked if I was interested in this song, they felt like it was kinda up my alley. Way back a long time ago I recorded some of their stuff before, it just never came out. A lot of that is just the family friendship. You know living with them when I did, goes really deep. A lot of heartfelt words coming out of that from them.
Jashie P: Another track, “Tore Up & Loud,” at the end of the song there’s the little rant about “after 14 years you’re finally free.” How did that slip past Curb?
It never came up in any of the discussions or anything. Since I wasn’t necessarily saying anything about them, it’s just saying something. And I wanted to give a big shout out to Jeff Clayton. On the last album I don’t know how I forgot to put his name in the credits. I messed up and it slipped by me, and I was definitely wanting to pay some respects to him somehow.
Jashie P: You and Joe Buck ever talk any more?
Hank III: He’s just out there doing his own thing man. When he came to me he just wanted to be a bass player. Then he changed his mind. I need guys that, as Jimmy Martin would say “You need to be playing with ME, not playing with THEM.”
Jashie P: The last tour, a lot of people were pretty skeptical when you announced that Kyle Turley was gonna be your opening act. How do you think he went over with your crowd?
Hank III: I mean, no more different then bringing someone like Izzy (Cox) on this next tour. I don’t even know what people will classify her as. And its no more different than bringing a death metal act with us. We don’t get pigeon holed into one style of music. And the way I look at Kyle, his heart, you know he’s been suffering seizures, and the doctor’s are telling him not to be around a bunch of stress. What does he want to do? Go out on the road and do music because that’s what makes him happy. Most people would be tucking their tail and heading the other way. He’s always loved music, and I don’t look at it as what style he’s playing. I just know what he’s up against and how much heart he’s putting into it, and that’s why.
Jashie P: Also with that same tour, there was a lot of word that Lucky Tubb was supposed to come out with you and a lot of speculation.
Hank III: He was never asked from anyone in my crew, or myself. If you’re going to speak for me, well, that’s what happens. You’ve gotta learn from your mistakes on that. I ask people to go on the road with me. I don’t be told who I’m bringing on the road with me.
Jashie P: You’ve had your past with Shooter Jennings. Have you had a chance to listen to his new album by chance?
Hank III: Naw man, I haven’t kept up with any of that really. My 8-10 year run of talking shit I’m sure is close to being over. He’s not as green as he was. It’s just one of those things man.
From The Real Deal:
Hank III: Something that I’m doing right now is I’m limiting myself on having to stay in smaller clubs. Nowadays if you want to book me, you don’t get my merch. Clubs taking band’s merch came into play about 10 years ago. They don’t deserve it. I don’t know how that fad started. But starting off on this next tour, if you want to book me, you’re not getting 20% of my merch. I’m not asking 20% of your bar. I sell some of them guys $30,000 in alcohol a night. It’s going to hurt me at first, because I’m gonna have to play smaller places, but its a new revolution we’re gonna try to start for the bands out there. The musicians are the ones that’s driving, paying their dues, and showing up at the club. They don’t deserve that merch money man. So people can look at some of the new clubs we’re playing and keep that in mind.
Big G: Ever since the first time I heard you I thought “this is so cool.” And I’m so glad that you’re doing . . .like Frank Sinatra, doing it your way.
Hank III: There’s a lot of rumors of people think I’m gonna stop doing the country records. That ain’t true. It’s just the last record with Curb. It’s a brand new beginning. I ain’t hanging nothing up. We’ve got a long ways to go.
Big G: We’re you affected personally (by the Nashville flooding)?
Hank III: I always rent on a hill. I’ve just always done that. We had about 250 buckets of water I had to get out of my basement, but that was nothing compared to what happened. I prepared the room downstairs because I knew it was coming. We were fine. Everybody in my crew made it through all right.
On our website here in about 2 or 4 weeks we’re going to have a T Shirt for sale, and were going to be donating all the money from that T Shirt to some charities around town, helping out the people that got hurt real bad. That’s something that some of the fans can look for.
When I wrote my review of Hellbound Glory’s new album Old Highs and New Lows I forgot to mention the other great players on the album besides the frontman Leroy Virgil, especially the drummer “Chico,” whose the other member of the band that has been there since the beginning. But as their recent album gets older but the songs don’t seem to, Leroy Virgil is beginning to be exposed as an A list singer songwriter in the underground scene, with skills that are even getting him some attention in the broader country world.
In a review from Country California, CM Wilcox says:
“Beneath all the booze and swagger lies a wordsmith. Virgil characterizes the partners in the dysfunctional relationship of “Either Way We’re F**ked” as “mutual parasites,” bristles at being treated as “nothing but debris” on “In the Gutter Again,” and elsewhere manages what could very well be the first seamless integration of the word “sclerose” into a country song. He’s an exceptionally clever writer.”
Leroy stopped down for an interview on the most recent episode of The White Trash Revival. You should head on over there and listen to it in it’s entirety, but a few of the meaty nuggets are transcribed below. Leroy doesn’t want to be a star, doesn’t want to be famous or rich. But he does want to play music, and be able to afford to put food on the table. If there is any underlying theme of what this website is all about, it is to make sure that exceptional talents like Leroy Virgil are able to do that: make the music we all love, and feed themselves.
Donnie Cash: How long have you guys been together, Hellbound Glory?
Leroy: We’ve been together about 4 years, chunking away at it. But I’ve been singing country with various projects for about 10 years now.
Donnie: How did “Scumbag Country” come about?
Leroy: It came pretty naturally. A buddy of mine kinda put it together. We played a gig right on the coast in Northern California and we stayed up all night singing, playing guitars, drinking booze. We played another gig the next night and we were driving and he says “You know Leroy, you’re just a fucking scumbag.” And (I said) you know that has a good ring to it. You’re right I am a scumbag. And you know, “Scumbag Country” is a cool way to call our music.
Donnie: I liked your album Scumbag Country and I like the new one even better.
Leroy: It’s a pretty personal record for me. Some of those songs are 10 years old. Called it Old Highs and News Lows because of that. “Hard Livin’ Man” I wrote when I was 19-years-old, I was living with a roommate back in Washington, getting into some trouble with crystal meth and just raising hell. I just kinda wanted to put all my best songs together about drugs and drinking. Just about every song has either happened to me, or has happened to someone I know. I write songs about real shit that happens.
Donnie: Most of the guys that are big in country say that you have to live the lifestyle to write a good song. And you’re songs are good, so there it is, you’ve lived the songs that you write about.
Leroy: A little more than I’d like to, to tell the truth. Its a battle. You know sometimes you feel like you gotta keep pushing yourself lower and lower into the gutter to get more material. That’s in the back of your head when you’re writing songs. I’ve been writing songs about doing drugs since I was a kid basically, when I first started doing drugs. When I was 15-years-old smoking crank from lightbulbs. I’ve pretty much been a lifelong user. Trying to quit though. I promised. The only time I ever said no is when someone asked if I had enough. I’ve never really been addicted to drugs. I’ve been addicted to being self-destructive my whole life.
Donnie: You know its probably hard, because you don’t get any mainstream radio play. You do have us little guys.
Leroy: Its not all about getting well known. Basically I just want to be able to sing some fucking songs for people and be able to eat decently. Macaroni and cheese is fine with me. I don’t want to be on sort of mainstream radio because most of that shit sucks. I still love Alan Jackson and George Strait but there’s obviously something wrong with it. It sounds like 80′s metal, not metal but 80′s glam rock. I don’t like to get into the whole thing of talk too to much shit about the mainstream, because it’s always going to be like that. It’s just not my bag. I’d rather listen to more honest music.
I can’t listen to music if I don’t think I’d like the guy singing it. That’s why I’m not big in to Old Crow Medicine Show. I like some of their songs, I’m just not a fan. Not to talk shit. I have to feel that sort of spirit. You know like Hank, when Hank sings or Hank Jr. sings or when Hank the third sings. And I feel like boy, if those guys were sitting in the room right now drinking beer I’d probably get along with them all right.
Donnie: Where do you want to be in the next five years?
Leroy: I thought I’d be dead by the time I hit 32 so. I’m 28 right now. Probably have a kid by then with the wife. Probably still be driving around playing music. Hopefully make enough to keep paying rent and put some mac and cheese on the table. I really don’t have any aspirations to be a star or be well known. I just like signing songs. I really don’t like the part of having to . . . its hard to explain. I just be like to be able to sing songs for people. I don’t want to be a star at all. It’s a convoluted answer, I know. I don’t see myself being Tim McGraw or Jason Aldean.
Motherfuckers who are in it for fame and fortune aren’t in it for music. I have an ex-wife who wanted to sing country music, and she didn’t even fucking like it. She just wanted to be famous. It’s like why would you want to be famous if your famous for something that isn’t you? A buddy of mine opened for Jake Owen a few weeks ago. I guess he was a decent guy on a personal level. But my buddy showed up for a sound check, he was opening, and they were listening to rap music. He said he wasn’t really country at all, he seemed more like a surfer dude. I guess he actually did a cover of Vanilla Ice.
Well I finally have the official Outlaw Radio Compilation Vol. 1 in my dirty little hands and let me tell you, what a thing it is to behold. I am just amazed at the work Jashie P of the Outlaw Radio Podcast did to put this whole thing together. I have a review of the CD coming, including a review for each and every song, but let me just say, if you think that this is a compilation of no names and tracks left on the cutting house floor, you’re dead wrong. Some of the songs are the best I’ve ever heard from the artists.
Anyway, I’ll save the rest for the review, but since there has been some confusion about the release date and a lot of interest in the track list, I thought I would go ahead and get that out to everyone. 22 tracks dag nabbit, all previously unreleased material!
The release date is going to be May 25th. Yes, at one point it was going to be early May, but then there were delays. Then it was going to be June 1st, but now things are ahead of schedule. So May 25th it is. Yes, the same day Hank III’s Rebel Within comes out. Think of it as like a double barrel shotgun blast at bland pop country.
If you pre-ordered, you might already have your copy, or will get it shortly. There’s only a few more days left to order the CD at $9, and then the price will jump a couple bucks, so don’t dottle. Head over to savingcountrymusic.com/outlaw-radio and order probably like about a dozen of those puppies. They cure what ails ya, and stay crispy in milk!
Cover and artwork done by BJ and Coley at Silent Storm Design.
- The Dad Horse Experience–Gates of Heaven (Vinyl Version)
- Ol’ Red Shed–Another Round
- Black Eyed Vermillion & Andy Gibson–Death Don’t Have No Mercy
- Bob Wayne–Ain’t No Diesel Trucks in Heaven
- Rachel Brooke–Closer Still
- Ted Russell Kamp–My Heart Has a Mind Of Its Own
- Ronnie Hymes–Sea of Sin
- Joey Allcorn–Gone, But Not Forgotten Blues
- Those Poor Bastards–The Minister’s Doom
- Dave Smith and the Country Rebels–Price to Pay
- Last False Hope–$2 Pints
- Izzy and the Kesstronics–Gotta Do What I Wanna Do
- The Fisticuffs–The Ballad of Bill Blizzard
- The Boomswagglers–Run You Down
- Roger Alan Wade–Breakfast At Audrey’s
- Little Lisa Dixie–Cheating Games
- .357 String Band–Restless Man Blues
- Six Gun Britt–Hard Habit To Break
- Hellbound Glory–Livin’ On Pabst Blue Ribbon
- The Goddamn Gallows–Waitin’ Around to Die (live)
- Joe Buck Yourself–Big River (live)
- Lucky Tubb & The Modern Day Troubadours–Thanks A Lot (live)
Well ladies and gentlemen, we were a week late, but we got the REAL Country Roundtable Volume 2 done. Topics discussed include: Why so many REAL country bands are coming out of the Midwest and Upper Midwest (and not the South). Has the .357 String Band “lost something” since mandolin player Jayke Orvis left. And we revisit Shooter Jenning’s new album “Black Ribbons.”
We also discuss my Anti-Country idea, which at this point is dead in the water, mostly from gross misunderstanding of the term. But I’m still glad I raised the topic, and just because my solution may not work, doesn’t mean there still isn’t a problem. In fact I think the problems are even more evident now, just over a week later, than when I proposed the idea. Music Row is castrating the underground, and if we cannot find some common ground or leadership, it is only going to get worse.
You can listen to or download the Roundtable below. We had fun doing it, and we hope you have fun listening. You can always find the episodes and more info about the Roundtable at savingcountrymusic.com/the-roundtable.
Roundtable Volume 2:
In other podcasting news:
–The White Trash Revival has had a lot of great guests on recent episodes, including Lucky Tubb, Junk, Kyle Turley, and Dog Bite Harris, so swing on over there and check it out.
–Blue Ribbon Radio is back after a stint away due to technical difficulties.
With every minute that passes, terrestrial radio fails us more and more, like a great hush rolling across the fruited plain. Like a slap of duct tape across the mouth, or the zippering of our souls.
As truly local radio stations fall to the onslaught of Jack FM and other such pre-formulated nationalized Tang-flavored formats, the regional taste of music falls as well, leaving one corpulent but ever greedy monster of homogenization, searching through the rubble for every last morsel of originality to gobble up until it has a complete monopoly on our sense of taste.
But out there still, if you look hard enough, you can find living breathing human beings still in charge of radio, spinning local flavor, or God forbid, whatever music they want; laboring against the dying of the light. Like little coals winking at the bottom of a late Fall fire pit, they shine against the impending darkness. And with the right stoking, any one of these glimmering coals could ignite into a raging fire.
One of these such coals now exists in Junction, TX at 93.5 on the dial. That is where “The Real Deal” resides, with “Big G” Gordon Ames at the wheel.
Big G can truly boast that this is something you’ve never heard before: regional Texas-flavored tunes with some national, more recognizable stuff thrown in. It’s the music you love, and the music you will love once you hear it. Its like an education and a recess all wrapped into one. It’s radio the way it was meant to be.
The ember might exist in an outpost on the way to West Texas, but the fire rages on the world wide web. Like the X radio stations of old that had to sneak across the border so they could get closer to their listeners, real radio is infecting the internet to reach those who don’t settle for that which is served to them on a spoon. If you click here (or click on The Real Deal icon at the top of the page) you can listen from anywhere around the world. Clicking that link is like tipping your candle to your neighbor at a candlelight vigil for the death of real radio: the flame spreads. And spreads. AND SPREADS.
Burn baby burn, and let us know that there’s still light out there pushing back the darkness. There’s still REAL music out there, and it lives on The Real Deal.
On the latest episode of the It Burns When I Pee podcast, Joe Huber of the .357 String Band let it be known that the high octane bluegrass band plans to continue touring and backing up Bob Wayne once the platoon gets back from a stint in Europe this month.
“Bob is one hilarious dude man. He’s probably one of the coolest dudes I’ve ever met. He definitely keeps you entertained all the time, and one of the most noble people I could possibly meet. . . . Within two weeks into this first tour with Bob we already decided to extend it to the West Coast, so in May and June, we’re already planning another month of West Coast tours and shows with Bob.”
Huber also talked about other tour plans for the rest of the year.
“We’re trying to hit up some festivals this year, either within Wisconsin or throughout the area, just kinda like bigger shows where we can get out, instead of playing rock clubs you can try to hit a festival, you know, get more people seeing you within one day, playing a show to more people than you would in a rock club.”
You can get the whole interview with Joe Huber, as well as an earful of IBWIP’s, um, “adult” humor as well as quite the anatomy lesson on It Burns When I Pee Episode 38.
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