Sturgill Simpson To Play Live Stream + Note on Sturgill Coverage

First the news:
Sturgill Simpson will be appearing in a free live stream event via webcast on Friday, June 5th at 7 p.m. Central from the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. The streaming event will be to benefit the MusiCares COVID-19 Relief Fund, The Equity Alliance Nashville Tornado Relief, and the Special Forces Foundation. The event will be available via nugs.net, Twitch, and YouTube. See bottom of the article for an embedded player.
Joining Sturgill will be bluegrass pickers Stuart Duncan, Mike Bub, Sierra Hull, Scott Vestal, Tim O’Brien and Mark Howard.
Simpson has been running a pledge drive for these charities via his Instagram page over the past few weeks, and says he’s raised $250,000 towards the charities. In Instagram posts (now deleted), Simpson told followers that if they raised a certain amount, he would do the streaming event, as well as release a new album this year.
Sturgill also recently posted a video of himself, his drummer Miles Miller, engineer and producer David Ferguson, and others heading into the studio to cut new versions of his old songs.
“Y’all raised Scrooge McDuck pile of $$$ to help a lot of people in need and I promised you a record this year,” Sturgill said in the now deleted post. “So I’m taking a detour from the five album plan to cut my entire back catalogue of songs for you guys the way they were written and meant to be played … ruff, rugged, n’ raw.”
Sturgill added in the video accompanying the post, “Get your Zyrtec ready cuz we cuttin’ that grass,” alluding that it could be bluegrass versions of his previous songs. Interesting to note, the last time Sturgill appeared on the Grand Ole Opry in May of 2019, he played an exclusively bluegrass set.
Sturgill’s recent arena tour with Tyler Childers was also raising funds for the Special Forces Foundation before it was cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
UPDATE (6/5): During Sturgill’s live stream from the Ryman, he confirmed he would have two albums—and Volume 1 and 2—coming out “in the fall” of previously-released songs done bluegrass style.
A Note from The Editor:
Sturgill Simpson has been making many posts on Instagram over the last few weeks, announcing news and raising funds for charity. Some, including Sturgill Simpson himself, have questioned why the media has not reported on this activity.
First, Sturgill Simpson has been making posts on Instagram, and then deleting them shortly thereafter. It is already frowned upon by many in the media to post articles solely off of what someone says on social media. Ideally, any information on social media should be independently verified, or at least cross referenced with a secondary source. If a post is deleted, this makes it even more difficult to report on it, since you can’t verify the information at all, if you even saw it in the first place. Was it deleted due to errors, because the information was incorrect, because it’s no longer valid?
Second, recently Sturgill Simpson has become quite combative with the media. Combined with the continued polarization from the mere mention of his name for certain music fans angry that he’s moved away from country, and from some political statements he’s made in the past, the topic of Sturgill Simpson has become very difficult to broach in general. On a (now deleted) Instagram post Simpson wrote on May 23rd congratulating his followers for helping him raise over $200,000, he also said:
Now, to some of my rich ass friends that ghosted out hard, y’all fair weather bitches got some explaining to do. Id also like to point out that not a single one of the usual suspect music press outlets (Rolling Stone/Pitchfork/Paste/American Songwriter/Uproxx/Fader/etc) that writes about me every time I fart or say something sensational or get the ‘Rona bothered posting one single word about our fundraising efforts here since we began..but you can bet your sweet asses that if I posted a vid today of myself sitting on the toilet giving a play by play of a white house press conference Id be on CNN right now. I mean,..just imagine how much money we could have raised if they’d all helped out and actually spread the word about something positive without me having to pay a publicist to ask them to. What a world it would be…
But in the defense of the media, Sturgill Simpson was taking a “post and delete” stance to the information he wanted the media to carry. When the stream on Friday from the Ryman Auditorium was announced, and that information could be verified with nugs.net and others, Rolling Stone, JamBase, Brooklyn Vegan, and now Saving Country Music and others all reported on it. It wasn’t that any of these outlets did not want to support a charitable effort. It is great and noble that Sturgill is using his celebrity to raise funds for important causes. But there are many celebrities and causes asking for money at the moment, and you can’t cover them all. So you start with the ones you can verify all the information for.
All that said, I, Trigger, have chosen to not offer compulsory coverage for Sturgill Simpson moving forward, as has been done in the past. That doesn’t mean I don’t support Sturgill’s charitable endeavors. He deserves full credit for his efforts. That also doesn’t mean I won’t cover Sturgill Simpson at all, especially if he does release further albums, and country albums specifically, and those efforts will be covered with professionalism and objectivity.
Instead of explaining why this will be the case moving forward in detail, it was arguably best laid out in a comment posted by a Saving Country Music reader named Andrew on the site in late April.
I guess Trigger can’t win. I still think you’re a bit easy on Sturgill given how much damage he’s caused this community of fans and specifically, the community surrounding the “traditional” or “Alt.” country scene he made his name in. While Sturgill never had the ability to “destroy country music,” Sturgill Simpson’s blatant betrayal of his original genre, fanbase, and message certainly was capable and DID almost single-handedly cause this community to become an UGLY place through creating needless hostility between, what used to be, unified supporters of a special and under appreciated type of music.
Destroying the unity amongst alt. country music fans is Sturgill Simpson’s unforgivable sin, not his personal politics, not his ego, not his substance issues (although the first 2 certainly contributed to his actions and I wish him the best regarding the last wherever he may currently be in that process). He has irreparably damaged this community and countless artists through his actions in a manner that no one will ever truly fully comprehend. Worse yet, he’s divided virtually the entire Alt country community in two by running his mouth in a manner that detracts from, not adds to “country music” or “music” in general. He may claim that “country” is a pointless category and isn’t relevant to him but, he was the one singing lines like “I’m tired of y’all playing dress up trying to sing them old country songs” fueling that fire not too long ago. Nowadays, Sturgill Simpson is closer to either a John Stewart or Kim Kardashian than your favorite Highwayman nowadays and the substance of the comments attached to his name reflect this point ad nauseum (I reckon some of those fellows disagreed on politics as they championed each other to legendary status by the way).
While there’s always been a group of people who only listen to artists with the same political agenda they have, those people are not only almost always politically inept followers incapable of grasping the nuance of complex problems, they are also musically incompetent due to their voluntary omission of approximately half of the great country music available on this planet over some political affiliation they don’t really understand to begin with. This community’s toxicity increased drastically in response to Sturgill Simpson’s pollution. So much so, I literally refrain from gigging original music because I wouldn’t want some of y’all as fans, so much so, I’m happier without following this website because the commenters are so distasteful, and that is a real shame.
Sturgill Simpson is by far the single largest villain in causing and encouraging virtually every single MUSICAL discussion about him that extends beyond 3 valid points and rebuttals to end in a POLITICAL insult. THAT IS NOT WHAT COUNTRY MUSIC OR ANY MUSIC IS ABOUT AND WE SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED! Sturgill, like all artists and people, is entitled to his opinions and political beliefs. He is entitled to write and sing political songs if that’s what he chooses to do. His dismissal and disdain for fans of his that hold different political opinions than his own is always going to seem childish and lacking in class when compared to the approach of say a Dolly Parton but, it is his right none the less. What he should NOT be permitted to get away with is encouraging, whether willfully or negligently, a group of music fans o to stop supporting music, artists, and each other on the basis of politics. Remember, Sturgill was openly super liberal back in his Sunday Valley days so, anyone whom can discuss that album and says they liked his country music was aware of his political affiliation at that time. The difference is, back then he was making political points, now he is spewing hatred towards people he owes a great deal.
He should be ashamed of the way he’s treated the people who caused this pretentious whiney millionaire to become a millionaire to spite his bad attitude and inability to play well with others. Sturgill owes countless fans and dollars to SCM and doesn’t deserve the mercy he’s been shown in SCM articles in my humble opinion for the above-stated reasons. I don’t think I’ve commented on a SCM ARTICLE discussing Sturgill since Sturgill was country because the community and COMMNETS are always too ugly to ignore (although I know my policy of not calling people out by name has led to some confusion as to whether I was criticizing the author or a commenter in the past, for the record, I’ve never had anything beyond a healthy difference of opinion with the author as he’s always done the work and formed sound opinions worthy of respect at minimum) I do love and miss aspects of this site but, after watching the damage Sturgill has done to this place, I still can’t stomach the number of remaining Sturgill Supporters (even as that number has decreased DRASTICALLY since my last appearance) because he’s made a real mess of the community surrounding the music I love and isn’t really being held accountable.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:09 am
Who thought of all places the website with the most drama would be a country music site. I came here for the music and unfortunately, that’s not a priority for you Trig. Guess I’ll find my country music reviews elsewhere.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:18 am
By how fast you left this comment, I can verify you didn’t read this entire post. And if you had, you would have never left your comment, because the article explains why this has become “the website with the most drama.” It’s also you first comment on the site, ever. Good luck finding your reviews elsewhere, because I cover the stuff nobody else does. That’s why I was the first guy to ever cover Sturgill Simpson. The Editor’s Note on this article wasn’t to start drama, it was to end it.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:40 am
Guess you could say you’re doing the opposite of saving country music by driving people away from your coverage.
Best of luck in your future endeavors!
June 4, 2020 @ 12:02 pm
I would much rather deal with less readers, if it means there will be less drama.
This isn’t just a hobby blog, this has been my livelihood for going on 13 years, and a life’s purpose. But I’m not looking for world domination or popularity. This is about creating a community of individuals to connect through music. And the strength of that community is more important than the size of it, both in the effort to try and sustainably support artists, and to save country music. I want everyone to feel welcome here, including you, and including people who may disagree with me. But if we can’t come to some fundamental understandings then it’s not worth the constant environment of conflict. This is the way myself and other journalists feel. That’s why we’re lessening our coverage of Sturgill Simpson. Not because we’re “fair weather” people who don’t support charity. It’s because it’s just not worth the drama he brings to the table, along with his fans.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:33 pm
“I’m not looking for world domination or popularity. This is about creating a community of individuals to connect through music. And the strength of that community is more important than the size of it”
I wish the whole country industry would approach things this way. It should be a smaller, stronger and more united fandom than other genres. I know its what you’ve been working for from the beginning.
In my opinion, less should be made of the controversial political comments made by artists, since its not their profession. I wouldn’t ask a mechanic how to patch my roof. The lyrics that they write or sing are the only words from them that should carry any weight. Many of us believe that Simpson tends to talk alot of stupid shit, but I love Sturgill Simpson because I love his four albums, and believe he may be the most artistic musical artist we have right now.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:19 pm
@Brandon E it won’t let me directly respond to you but people who can’t separate the art from the artist I just don’t give much stock to what they say when you find out just who they actually listen to.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:38 pm
The idea that writing an article about an artist stating that you have decided to reduce the amount of coverage for that artist is the kind of thing that screams “CLICKBAIT”. Just don’t cover him. That is your right, but to write an article announcing that you don’t want to write an article is just plain ridiculous.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:44 pm
It is ridiculous. It was also, unfortunately, necessary.
But this is not an article about not covering Sturgill. It’s an article about how he has a live stream coming up, is working on a bluegrass album, unfairly called out the media for not covering him, with a note of why you can expect less Sturgill coverage here in the future.
June 5, 2020 @ 6:49 am
I don’t necessarily agree with your decision to cut back coverage of Simpson, Trigger, but I do understand your reasons for making it. As a journalist myself, what really strikes me about this piece and everything else you write is your integrity. You never fail to be honest and straight-forward about what you’re thinking and doing as the sole guy in charge here. A lot of people these days talk about “fake news” and agree that the media are “the enemy of the people.” You’re an example of the fact that a lot of journalists — not all of them, by any means, but a lot more of them than people seem to think — take being honest and straight-forward very seriously.
July 19, 2020 @ 10:23 pm
“I would much rather deal with less readers, if it means there will be less drama.”
I imagine this is probably how Sturgill feels about his music (as he should). Less listeners, less drama. You pretty much make the argument for him with this statement.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:07 pm
Based on the fact that your comment has 0 likes and Trigger’s has 7, it’s safe to say that your the only one he’s “driven away” with this article.
June 5, 2020 @ 2:58 pm
Y’all are a bunch of little bitches.
June 8, 2020 @ 7:47 pm
Even Handsome Johnny’s ghost is always right.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:19 pm
How can anyone say that Trig is driving people away, or distracting from the music? If anything, his original article (and the user comment contained therein) suggests that people are critical of Trig only because he’s avoided giving Sturgill harsher criticism – deserved, in the eyes of many fans.
I think Trig’s decision to cover Sturgill objectively must have been a tough one, as Trig has sang the praises of Sturgill in the past, and has steadfastly been one of his biggest promoters. I spent hundreds of dollars on Sturgill/Tyler tickets (to a show that of course has been cancelled), and I first learned about Sturgill on this website. That’s a direct contribution to Sturgill’s pocket (again, it would have been but for the pandemic).
Sturgill’s bizarre animosity, Isbell’s political arrogance…. I still enjoy the music, I learned about both artists here on this website, and I appreciate Trig’s professionalism when it comes to keeping focus on the music and exposing me to new artists.
June 4, 2020 @ 7:46 pm
“Sturgill’s bizarre animosity, Isbell’s political arrogance”……so you are mad that these are individual people, with the own beliefs and opinions? FFS people….
June 4, 2020 @ 8:23 pm
Mad? No. If I was mad, you’d know, because I’d say so. Some of us say precisely what we mean, and some of us make it up as we go, apparently.
Why would I be mad? Because Sturgill Simpson’s animosity is odd to me? Or because I find one thing that Jason Isbell said to be arrogant? If you care to take another look, you’ll see I still enjoy the music. Very much so, actually.
Not mad in the least, bud.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:15 am
Yea… you should’ve definitely wrote the post script and not left it to that comment lol.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:19 am
Eh, I think I made the right choice. It says what I would have said, only better.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:41 am
Trigger. Go find me some decent new music. Leave all this other crap to others. You are better than that. I think you start all this so you can have something to laugh at whilst you are having a shit. Going for one now myself.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:08 pm
Be sure and report back.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:53 pm
OK, if you say so. He’s passionate and has some interesting things to say, but it’s a bit overwrought, as a lot of of his comments tended to be. I guess I didn’t read that one, as I just got a little tired of him. And he can’t stomach the remaining Sturgill supporters? What the hell is that? Also, lumping Jon Stewart together with Kim K. One is a person of substance and one isn’t, and so I think his judgement outside of his own world might be a little suspect. Maybe he’s one of these people who thinks NYC and LA are two versions of the same place. And he’s one of these people that thought Sturgill did Tyler Childers a great disservice as his producer and wouldn’t shut the hell up about it, right?
June 4, 2020 @ 1:06 pm
Look, I’m not saying I agree with every word he said. But I do think his opinion and perspective reflects what a lot of Saving Country Music readers feel, and in this instance I believe it was better coming from a commenter as opposed to myself. I think he makes a lot of good points and raises very fair concerns.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:58 pm
Yeah, fair enough. Dude’s intense, that’s for sure.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:30 am
What a shame.
Angrypants Simpson does some good but can’t resist pouring his own piss and vinegar on top. Then he bitches about everyone else’s reactions to draw attention to His Important Selfness. No faith in his fellow man, just a strange, angry kind of charity. He reminds me of a little of Greta Thunberg.
I don’t know why he’d listen to old horses like me, though: out here in the cornfields, we haven’t ingested enough psilocybin to see or understand anything at all.
Still waiting for him to mellow a bit, write more country songs, and learn to sing.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:36 am
I know you have to cover him but I am tired of Simpson. I find myself usually skipping his coverage here or anywhere else. Glad to see you are cutting back on him a little.
Good job on his charity word. Jason Isbell has been raising money for the same charity as well.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:40 am
I find the outraged whining about to be completely insufferable.
Jesus people get the fuck over yourselves. He’s just a damn singer. You like his music or you don’t.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:46 am
I get that he is trying to be an edge lord but the more he tries to distance himself from others with that attitude, the closer he gets to them. I’ve taken acid/shrooms quite a few times and the message I usually received was “all of this is BS so get your head out of your ass”.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:48 am
Trigger,
You are so fortunate to be in a position where you can say what you want, and we are lucky to have you. Let’s see what happens to Matt Yglesias and other people who dare step foot outside the increasingly narrow narrative.
As for Sturg I don’t really care. He made some great country albums in the past, he’s entitled to his own opinion, etc. etc. The argument that he used to make country music doesn’t hold up to as to why he should still be covered here so much. Unless he makes more country music or we want to talk about his past albums, or we does something that effects country music culturally, why even bother at all? How many rock albums does he have to release before he stops getting so much coverage? All said with respect, of course.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:50 am
*he
June 5, 2020 @ 11:09 am
That’s what I dont understand, Stirgill Simspon is not near the guy in reality that this site portrays (in regard to the amount of attention he gets, I cant comment on any of this craziness or dividing fanbases, give me a break – noone cares) The average true Texas country or traditional country fan, probably have never heard one song from this guy. The name maybe, but that’s because of this kind of ridiculous coverage by mainstream sites. Yes SCM when google recommends you, you have now become a main stream site. I tried to email trig days in advance about Grand Ole Opry member Hal Ketchums fundraiser for his alzheimers… and he did not receive in time. Guess too busy writing crap like this. Why dont mainstream sites take the time to search positive events especially a time like this? Trig care to comment? Or delete my post?
June 5, 2020 @ 12:48 pm
Well, there is a lot going on in this comment, but I will try to answer as much as I can.
1) “The average true Texas country or traditional country fan, probably have never heard one song from this guy.”
That is very, very false. Sturgill is not a superstar, but everybody in Texas country and traditional country knows who he is. He was nominated for the all genre Grammy Album of the Year right beside Adele, Beyonce, Justin Bieber, and Drake, and performance on the broadcast. People know who Sturgill Simpson is.
2) I don’t like to talk about traffic or gloat. But yes, when it comes to traffic and Google rankings and such, you could consider SCM a “mainstream” site, meaning my articles come up high in searches, and my traffic is comparable to other sites in the mainstream. But I also cover a tremendous amount of independent country music, including being the first guy to ever cover Sturgill Simpson. I would never NOT cover an artist just because they aren’t big enough. It’s actually vice versa.
3) I’d have to go back and look, but I believe the reason I didn’t cover the Hal Ketchum fundraiser is I literally just didn’t see your message until either after it had passed, or right before it where I didn’t have the opportunity to post something about it. There are a ton of charity events going on every single day (especially now), and unfortunately I can’t cover them all. I do the best I can.
June 5, 2020 @ 4:30 pm
Nah I think Sturg is known in most of the country world for his past efforts. And I respect Trigger and love this site. But I’m super bored of this guy and don’t think he should have received any attention once he became a rock artist. If he releases a bluegrass or country record then of course he should be back on the radar. And yes, I understand the irony of my comment.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:50 am
You are one whiny writer. You seem to have an issue with the ego of Sturgill but might want to check your own. Cover him or don’t. Who needs to read a 5 paragraph post to validate your feelings? Good Lord you should just print that out and read it to yourself at night to feel good before you go to bed.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:35 pm
Chris,
Let’s take a step back, and ask who is the one “whining.”
Sturgill Simpson, after having deleted ALL his social media properties on multiple occasions, including his Instagram account, either re-institutes his Instagram account or starts a new one, and starts posting stuff. Shortly after posting stuff, he deletes his posts so you can’t see them any more. Then he posts a long-winded rant calling out his “rich friends” as “Fair weather bitches,” and then calls out all of the media, naming specific outlets by name, for not covering something THAT HE’S DELETED on an Instagram page few are following because they don’t even know it exists.
The point of this article was to promote Sturgill Simpson’s upcoming live stream, to inform the public he has a new record in the works, and to explain why nobody in the media covered his deleted Instagram posts.
You can be a fan of Sturgill Simpson, and still see that what he said was unreasonable.
I look forward to continuing to cover Sturgill Simpson in the future. But I’m not going to hang on his every word, and I’m not going to let him off the hook for calling out all of the media and implying they don’t care about charity and causes. He crossed a line, and someone needed to offer context.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:14 pm
Thanks for the response Trigger but how does his social media behavior prevent you from reporting his activities? It’s not like he came and deleted your hard drive. Or, are you just looking for CYA when reporting on him so that he or others can’t say you are misrepresenting him in some way? You do know you can do screen grabs of his posts. It would have been real easy to just summarize his activities and reference his “now deleted post” which is pretty common in this day and age. Seems like you are looking for some form of acknowledgement that he somehow owes you or others in the media to be the channel through which he communicates and it sounds like that is upsetting you.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:58 pm
Well first off, that’s pretty much what I did with this article, which was offer a summation of the information Sturgill has been posting on Instagram lately, and subsequently deleted. And yes, I have been taking screenshots when I see stuff, and people have sent me screenshots as well.
I didn’t explain why the media did not report on Sturgill’s efforts until now as a way to lash out at Sturgill. It was an explanation of why that was the case for both Sturgill and his fans who were very directly calling out myself and others in the media for ignoring him. Remember, Sturgill Simpson posted a long-winded rant on May 23rd calling out the media for not covering him. So when you say, “Seems like you are looking for some form of acknowledgement that he somehow owes you or others,” I would say it seems like that’s what Sturgill was looking for from the media. I respect Sturgill disseminating information however he wishes. But posting an article based off of information in a deleted post is something most any editor is going to strike down. Furthermore, just because Sturgill posts something on Instagram doesn’t mean everyone, or anyone, in the media will see it, especially when you’ve deleted your Instagram account on multiple occasions, and then delete the posts you want reported on. The reason people weren’t reporting on Sturgill is likely because they just didn’t see it. Yet he’s calling into question the character of these outlets.
One of the main reasons for my editorial note at the end of this article was to establish that I’m not going to hang on Sturgill’s every word, and why, and why that shouldn’t be expected of me. In Sturgill’s May 23rd rant, he very specifically calls the media out for reporting on virtually anything he does. And I have done that in the past because I want to support Sturgill and his career. But since the mere mention of his name has become so acidic and damaged the community around this website, I’m not doing that any more, and I don’t want anyone to expect that from me. And they probably shouldn’t expect it from the rest of the media either.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:40 pm
Well, we’ll agree to disagree on the purpose for including the editorial. But I do appreciate you responding and your publication overall as I do agree it is a great source for finding new music.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:53 am
Dolly Parton has written another one, “When Life Is Good Again”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEUYlo6OoDY&feature=youtu.be
She has become the grandest of grand old ladies, just the most loving and lovable person ever. And look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CAPWKTjlrs
Now do this with Americans of all kinds!
June 4, 2020 @ 11:54 am
Ooof imagine getting furious at an artist because they don’t do what you want them to. Imagine someone you respect giving you an opportunity to be slightly less of a shit head by leading the way. Imagine getting pissed that an artist you once liked communicates through social media/about media like your president. (Imagine comparing it all to a teenage girl that threatens you so much, like the thoughtful person above).
Trig, I appreciate your concern regarding the media youre a part of, your concern over the best way to cover the industry and it’s characters, your personal views mixed with the coverage, and I urge you to write about whatever you want to regardless of the poopy diaper crowd.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:55 am
I’ve been done with Sturgill for a while. He went off the rails with his music and his personality long ago for me. Thank God for Mike and The Moonpies.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:58 am
This way too over the top..
How the hell has the guy destroyed the scene? By making a rock album?
When has he ever said he didn’t like country music?
How the hell has he destroyed other artists??
Divided a scene, destroyed unity? WTF
He has caused someone from playing their own material live? Why? Thats nutz!
When has he ever told fans not to listen to someone else?
He is just an artist. Get over it.
From what I’ve seen, his peers don’t have anything bad to say about him.
Look at who became his best friends Haggard, Prine.
Look what he’s done for Tyler.
You like him or you don’t, but this is just bizarre.
Personally, I can’t wait for a blue grass album.
You see the people he has playing with him? Some of the best in the world. They dont seem to have a problem with him.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:34 pm
Agreed. That comment that was in the article was insanely over the top. Sturgill hasn’t destroyed anything. It’s a known fact that Sturgill doesn’t like fame (yes, I also find some of his attitudes towards it annoying), and 95% of the time he’s just looking to get a rise out of people on social media, including politically.
He is what he is, and what he always has been. If someone is trying to hoist the title and burdens of country music savior or leader of the alt. country genre on Sturgill, that’s their issue and not his.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:36 pm
“If someone is trying to hoist the title and burdens of country music savior or leader of the alt. country genre on Sturgill, that’s their issue and not his. “
I agree.
But if you can’t see the acrimony Sturgill Simpson has sown within the independent country community, evident in this very comments section, your eyes are wide shut.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:59 pm
I think he has ruffled feathers, but that’s exactly why he does all these stunts. I guess my main point was to say people need to not take it so seriously. The first few times, maybe. But at this point it should be obvious to all that he’s a weird and moody guy who gets a kick out of using controversial social media posts and interviews to stir the pot. I completely understand and agree with your decision to not give him as much coverage, as it does tend to turn into some pretty painful back and forth rehashing the same general topics over and over.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:03 pm
Sorry dude. You’ll never save country music if you turn your back on Sturgill. He’s a shit disturber & that’s what all music needs right now, especially Country. So if you are so fragile, that you can not take it when Sturgil is telling it how it is, how are you going to save country music? You are not. Kane Brown, Dan & Shay & the rest, give me an effin’ break. You should not be posting any type of story about those idiots and most of the rest of them for that matter. They deserve nothing. They are bad pop artists that couldn’t make it in the pop music world. But these current turds of country music go all the way back to the original dick that started this decline in Country music….Garth “Effin” Brooks. I remember when the Nashville geniuses ran Waylon, Johnny and Willie out of Nashville. The only diff, the music industry did not have every Country radio station sold on their bogus shit back then. So, they played good music. Radio stations did not care that those musical geniuses pissed you all off. Anyway, Sturgill Simpson & a few others are our last hope. You give up on them, it’s over Trigger. Have you even rode a horse?
June 4, 2020 @ 1:12 pm
“You’ll never save country music if you turn your back on Sturgill.”
I think you can make a strong case Sturgill turned his back on all of us.
Also, Kane Brown and Dan + Shay? The last (and only) time I posted about Dan + Shay was in 2016. I have posted about Kane Brown, but it’s to call out clear malfeasance in the mainstream system, so I’m not sure how that is against the effort to save country music.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:07 pm
“blatant betrayal of his original genre.” lol.
savingcountrymusic.livejournal.com
June 4, 2020 @ 12:09 pm
Now you all know how I felt when Springsteen released a country album.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:22 pm
you wrote him off completely, called him a traitor, refused to ever listen to him ever again but still leave the same tired negative comments about how you’ve hated bruce before he even released nebraska on every article that evens mentions his name?
June 4, 2020 @ 12:30 pm
Naw. He is still The Boss. Always has been.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:19 pm
I agree with you Trigger. I feel like his personality is just toxic. I know that isn’t all there is to an artist, but it’s a big turn off.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:20 pm
Shame the artist that served as my personal “big-bang“ intro to contemporary country music years ago turned out to be such an unstable and often classless guy. I can’t believe he’s my age, rather than a teenager. Can barely stand to read or listen to his rants, or follow his odd behavior, anymore.
Still very thankful though, that being a Sturgill fan introduced me to so many other great, arguably better, artists.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:23 pm
you’re right tex, your angry rants are much better!
June 4, 2020 @ 2:12 pm
Thanks. Means a lot.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:27 pm
Jeez,could you not have just reported about the live stream and album without all the long winded unnecessary bullshit.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:37 pm
No.
-me if I were Trigger.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:38 pm
Sturgill could have promoted his charitable causes without calling his own friends and the media “fair weather bitches.”
June 4, 2020 @ 4:41 pm
Why does that bother you so bad? Who cares if he alienates himself from his friends if that’s the case? And for the record, if he is doing something to help out, and country music is all about loving thy neighbor, he’s right- where are all the huge huge names or people with waaay more $$ than him.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:50 pm
“where are all the huge huge names or people with waaay more $$ than him.”
All the big names in country music are donating right now. It’s compulsory.
“Who cares if he alienates himself from his friends if that’s the case?”
Sturgill Simpson called out Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, Paste, American Songwriter, Uproxx, and Fader by name, as well as the rest of the entire media for not covering Instagram posts that he DELETED, and in many cases, people didn’t see in the first place. Again, this is not some big point that we need to go back and forth about. But if you can’t understand the basic principle that the media is not going to report on things they can’t see, and it was uncool for Sturgill to call them out because it was his own fault, you’re blinded by fandom.
June 5, 2020 @ 6:53 am
media reports on things that they can’t/didn’t see all the time. they use things called secondary sources in these cases. you call yourself a journalist all the time. this is like journalism 101.
June 5, 2020 @ 9:13 am
My fucking God.
Let me break this down as simple as I absolutely fucking can.
1. Sturgill posts some stuff on Instagram.
2. Sturgill turns around 24-48 hours later and DELETES that stuff he posted on Instagram.
3. A few journalists saw what Sturgill had posted on Instagram, and decide they want to post a story about it. However, since the posts have been taken down down, either the journalist or their editor chooses not to post a story about it. THIS IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL. This is what actually fucking happened it two instances that I know of.
4. Nobody reports on Sturgill’s deleted Instagram posts.
5. Sturgill subsequently lashes out at the media for not reporting on his efforts.
6. I give a simple, basic, intuitive explanation of why the media didn’t report on Sturgill’s Instagram posts.
7. Sturgill fans curiously don’t seem to comprehend, continue to harp on it.
Again, I’m not saying anyone couldn’t have reported on it if they wanted. Whiskey Riff actually did, because they’re a fucking T-shirt company that has no journalistic standards to uphold. I’m giving you the very intuitive explanation of WHY the media didn’t report on it. Agree with it, disagree with it, it’s the facts. If Sturgill Simpson had left his Instagram posts up, the media would have reported on them.
…and to further drive home this point, I posted on May 26th in another comment, QUOTE, “There are some very specific reasons not only Saving Country Music, but other outlets are not reporting on Sturgill Simpson’s efforts at the moment (something he’s specifically pointed out himself). But it’s a complicated situation that deserves its own discussion.”
https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/most-anticipated-country-roots-albums-for-2nd-half-of-2020/comment-page-1/#comment-1158463
You actually commented right below me on that thread, so you likely saw it.
I had received DOZENS of comments, emails, etc. on why I had not been covering Sturgill’s Instagram stuff (which he was deleting). That is why I decided to broach it here, to explain why not only myself, but the rest of the media hadn’t reported on it. It wasn’t to attack Sturgill, it was simply to give an explanation.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:38 pm
Still and always will be both a Sturgill and SCM fan.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:56 pm
Can you please turn yourself in to authorities? They need to hand you over to government scientists to see how, in 2020 you can still have a diverse and tolerant opinion of multiple things AT THE SAME TIME!!!
Fuck the COVID vaccine… we need your antibodies sir.
June 4, 2020 @ 12:39 pm
On another note, this livestream has the potential to be killer. He’s got some incredible talent behind him, and these same players are cutting his new album. If the production quality for the livestream is as good as the one Childers did from NYC, it’s going to be amazing.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:19 pm
agreed. great points that should’ve been talked about. That set he did at the Opry was so on point enjoyable and fun. This new album has so much promise to it.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:36 pm
Great comment/explanation. Support you 100% Trig.
June 4, 2020 @ 1:55 pm
It’s your site and if you don’t want to provide compulsory coverage of Sturgill anymore, that’s your prerogative. And I can’t say it upsets me, like maybe if you reached this decision a lot earlier based on reader pressure. I’m guessing you’re a little tired of his ass. And his last album wasn’t even rootsy, must less country. It was a decent rock album, but one that I don’t listen to much anymore. If I want rock musc, I’ll go to Richard Thompson, Chuck Prophet, Alejandro Escovedo, DBT or The Bottle Rockets first. If he puts out a more country/rootsy album, I hope you review it.
You know, I do love his first two albums, but I especially love MMSICM. Probably in my top three from the 2010’s. I saw two epic shows when he toured on it (one at the Birchmere and one at the 9:30 Club). Whenever I listen to it, though, I feel a little sad. I don’t love the two albums he’s done since and maybe only really love one song on those two albums (Sea Stories). And MMSICM came out way back in 2014. Oh well.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:01 pm
My thought almost exactly. I’d be fine with sticking to country music discussions. That said, here I am commenting like a sucker.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:29 pm
I sure hate to hear that, my wheelhouse is absolutely tried and true country music but S&F has quickly become my favorite Sturgill album.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:39 pm
I like Sound and Fury OK. Maybe it would have been great live. Had a ticket to see him and Tyler in March and of course, that didn’t happen. I‘m still interested in him from a music fan perspective. We’ll see what he does, but I temper my expectations now.
June 5, 2020 @ 8:14 am
My wife loves country and S&F is her favorite Simpson album. I never would’ve thought that. Different Stroke Different Folks I guess.
June 5, 2020 @ 8:31 am
I think it’s a harder one to listen to straight through. Inspired somewhat by this article, I started listening to it yesterday evening. I think it starts out strong with Ronin and Remember to Breathe. I stopped listening during Sing Along, which ain’t all that great. There’s other good songs on it, though, like Fastest Horse in Town. I don’t exactly love ASGTE, but I think it’s a good listen from start to finish.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:29 pm
Love Sturg.
Love Trig/SCM.
That said, could’ve used more substance and information regarding the new album. Unless, of course, this is all the information that’s out there. But I’m sure there’s more rumours going around. If not, could’ve had more background on the who’s who featured on the new album.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:38 pm
All the information that we know about the new album is included here. It’s at a very infant stage where he’s literally just getting into the studio to record it. We don’t have any info on track list, release date, cover art, guest players, etc. I included the information in Sturgill’s Instagram post about it verbatim that he’s since deleted it.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:47 pm
Stuart Duncan and Mike Bub were both in the video. That should’ve definitely been mentioned. Stellar bluegrass artists, and proof that it will likely be a more roots focused album.
For the livestream it’s confirmed to have Stuart Duncan, Mike Bub, Sierra Hull, Scott Vestal, Tim O’Brien and Mark Howard involved. This might also give an idea on what to expect during the livestream concert. And it’s probably a good indication on what the album will sound like as well, as they’re probably all involved.
I’m not a fanboy, nor a blogger. But that was easy to find information, and I believe worth mentioning as this new direction seems to be headed more towards what we all used to love about Sturgill Simpson and Sunday Valley, and in extension also this website. And this, luckily, also does not involve any dirty politics.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:21 pm
See, this is the problem of reporting on information in deleted posts.
I took a screenshot of Sturgill’s Instagram post when he was outside of the studio where he announced the bluegrass album, which of course, he’s subsequently deleted. I included his written information in that Instagram post verbatim in this article. I also recalled from memory seeing Miles Miller and David Ferguson in the video. As I was writing this article I said, “Hey, I should check the video once again to see if there is any further information there.” But it was deleted, so I couldn’t do that, and the screenshot doesn’t capture the video. In hindsight, I guess I could have held up my phone to the computer screen to capture the now deleted Sturgill video so I could have that information to pull from as well. But good gosh. So now my reporting is criticized from not being thorough, whereas if it was some other artist, maybe someone would have said in a comment, “Hey, saw Stuart Duncan and Mike Bub in the video too!” And that would be that.
This is the reason I don’t want to report on Sturgill Simpson anymore, unless it’s deemed essential. Because it’s just a mine field.
I could (and now have) included the names of the people performing with him on the livestream, but that information was not available from the message I received from nugs.net, which is where I learned about it. I’m now seeing it at the bottom of Sturgill Simpson’s Instagram post, which will be deleted shortly I’m sure.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:31 pm
I mean there are certainly other avenues. Both reddit.com/r/sturgillsimpson and reddit.com/dickdaddysurvival have screen caps and recordings of all his latest posted and deleted IG posts.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:34 pm
On May 23rd, Sturgill Simpson called out his own friends as “fair weather bitches,” and then by name, called out Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, Paste, American Songwriter, Uproxx, Fader, as well as the rest of the entire media for not paying attention to him. If any writer for any of those outlets would have presented a story to publish about how Sturgill Simpson was trying to raise money for charity and would release an album if he met a certain goal, those stories would be rejected by any editor due specifically to the fact that Sturgill deleted the post with that information. In fact, I have information that’s exactly what happened in a couple of circumstances. Finding those old Instagram posts is not the point. The point is that Sturgill Simpson took them down, which in most cases means the information was incorrect, unverified, maybe he changed his mind, etc. It doesn’t mean that you still can’t write about it. But any editor would frown upon it, because they don’t know what that information has been deleted. There are SO MANY other things you can write about. You move to the next story where the info is verified.
WAY too much is being made about this point. I just simply wanted to explain why the media did not cover Sturgill’s efforts until today when nugs.net put out verified information that outlets could report on. Since he instigated this drama (though for some reason, I’m the one being criticized for it), I felt the need to address it.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:52 pm
Tim, Scott and Sierra were also in the studio in the video. My guess is that it’s already done or will be in the next few days. He’s done each of his last few albums in about a week (the Childers albums too), and with the covid pandemic I’d imagine it could be even quicker than that.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:46 pm
I love Sturgills music. I think he’s a bit of a weirdo that doesn’t take himself too seriously. Listening to him over the years on JRE I don’t take his antics as serious. He’s personality can definitely grate on folks tho and I definitely don’t agree with everything he does. But that’s ok we don’t have to. Sound and Fury is criminally under rated in my opinion. When that last synth drops in fastest horse in town I get frissons like crazy. I think his best music is still in there somewhere and that’s what keeps me glued to Sturgill……dude is talented as fuck.
All that being said I get why trigg covers it the way he does. For every dude bitching about Sturgill there’s more who eat up everything he does. Basically his whole audience wants to know what Sturgill is doing good or bad.
June 4, 2020 @ 2:48 pm
I’m a big fan of the site and appreciate all the new music I’ve gotten from it. Including Sturgil. I’m still dig his music though I don’t do the right drugs for his last album.
Either way, I’ll tell you from an outside perspective this is all starting to sound very soap-opera-y. I mean I’m not sure how sturgil can turn his back on me if I’ve never met him. I thought he was just a singer I dug. Maybe I had low expectations?
It sounds like a lot of people think he’s a dick. But I’m not sure any of these people have actually spent time with him?
Either way I’m stoked for a bluegrass album.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:26 pm
Is Simpson still a thing? Meh…
June 4, 2020 @ 3:37 pm
You guys are taking Sturgill and the whole “saving country music” thing way to serious. Let Sturgill be himself. Like him or don’t. We all built him up, now we want to bring him down. So crazy. Just enjoy the music or don’t.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:46 pm
Man Trig, for once try not to make and article or a review about yourself. Let’s applaud Sturg for his charitable efforts and his generosity releasing a bluegrass album he knows his fans want.
I swear you always add unnecessary drama to every story and act like the high moral elitist on everything. Chill dude.
June 4, 2020 @ 3:49 pm
Like a lot of commenters, I’m a big fan of SCM and Sturgill (even the new album). That being said, I understand Triggers decision. I think Sturgill gets some enjoyment from being an unreliable narrator and the biggest detriment to his once universal acclaim. I’ll keep supporting him because his music means that much to me, but I don’t bemoan anyone who quits listening, even if I think a fair amount of people’s vitriol towards him is a little over the top. I mean, there are bigger fish to fry in the world.
That being said, I go back to the age old question: how would we view Kurt Cobain, the Beatles, Hendrix, Michael Jordan, etc. if they had social media in their day?
June 4, 2020 @ 4:20 pm
Whether the new album is tried and true bluegrass, or some kind of bluegrass-country-rock hybrid, I have a feeling it will be the best music he’s put out since High Top Mountain and Sunday Valley. Can’t wait.
June 4, 2020 @ 4:33 pm
I’ve seen Sturgill’s comments and videos and everything. I’m pretty sure the dude just likes fucking with people. Don’t think he’s being an ass about it, it’s probably just funny to him. Because it is funny.
As for deleting posts, who knows? Maybe it’s as simple as seeing god-knows-how-many celebrities’ careers exploded over a tweet from 10+ years ago? Who the hell knows what’ll be super-duper offensive in a decade or two, so maybe it’s just a CYA thing? Or, maybe it’s just a “he likes fucking with people because it amuses him thing.” I’ve no idea, but also don’t care either way. Sturgill’s the shit.
June 4, 2020 @ 5:22 pm
This whole “Sturgill betrayed us” storyline reminds me of all those purist folkies who couldn’t forgive Dylan for picking up that electric guitar. Get over yourselves.
June 4, 2020 @ 6:15 pm
judas!
June 5, 2020 @ 3:13 pm
Backed by Michael Bloomfield who was about as pure a roots/folk artist who ever lived. I’ve been reading his new bio Guitar King and highly recommend it.
June 4, 2020 @ 5:43 pm
Sturgill doesn’t seem to understand that the complete opposite of a bad extreme is usually another bad extreme. And most of us don’t care which is technically worse. We just don’t like extremes.
If he waa was still making great music, I could handle his ego, but Sound and Fury blows. I understand that was kind of the point, but it sitll broke the camel’s back for me. I loved A Sailor’s Guide to Earth, but this ia too different, too hard to hear, and boring.
Come back home with your music, Sturgill. We miss you.
June 4, 2020 @ 6:18 pm
The fact that people want to hate Sturgill for “betraying” them is laughable. Seems like this site is over run with people who listen to country for country’s sake, and not necessarily because it is good. I love good country music, and I seek it out. I also greatly admire when any artist steps outside of their comfort zone and tries to stretch their legs. I don’t hate it due to the fact that it’s not hard Country. I think what this boils down to is the fact that Sturgill specifically called Trigger out in that interview some months back. If Sturgill drops a dime of a bluegrass record everyone who’s crying will dry their tears and love it. Just know that he’s not doing it for you, and he could care less whether you like it or not.
June 4, 2020 @ 6:47 pm
Just know that he’s not doing it for you, and he could care less whether you like it or not.
Well, that wasn’t very nice.
June 4, 2020 @ 6:34 pm
Does this have anything to do with the fact that he called you out on that podcast he did? It seems pretty obvious that you don’t want to cover him anymore…. even when he’s clearly doing bluegrass work. You’re butthurt. We get it… move on.
June 4, 2020 @ 7:06 pm
Amen
June 4, 2020 @ 8:06 pm
Maybe. Or maybe, you know, it has to to with the fact that, as stated in the article, Sturgill called out all of the media for not reporting on his Instagram posts that he’d taken down.
Look, a lot of folks love to cite the Sturgill Simpson quote about me as a reason for rage. But if you know anything about how callout culture works, you would know that him calling me out is a notch on my resume. Here, I post it again so everyone can see.
“Kyle at Saving Country Music, he’s literally the first that wrote about me. He’s always been supportive. But then at a certain point, you have to stop calling yourself a journalist and realize you’re just a butthurt obsessed fan boy, and I’m not going to make ‘Metamodern’ [Sounds in Country Music]’ fifteen times.”
June 5, 2020 @ 5:40 am
The thing about that “butthurt obsessed fan boy” comment that bothers me is that as a long time reader, I know that it is complete bullshit. It definitely applied to some commenters, but not Trigger’s writing. You know, if one actually read what he wrote. For instance, ASGTE did get a favorable review here and I remember Trigger writing that we should be thankful that it’s at least rootsy if not overtly country. But the site is called Saving Country Music (a strident name, for sure) and Sturgill’s a star now, so some people will just believe him when he spouts stuff like that.
June 4, 2020 @ 7:41 pm
“Sturgill Simpson is by far the single largest villain in causing and encouraging virtually every single MUSICAL discussion about him that extends beyond 3 valid points and rebuttals to end in a POLITICAL insult. THAT IS NOT WHAT COUNTRY MUSIC OR ANY MUSIC IS ABOUT AND WE SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED!”
Holy fuck. This is the dumbest thing I have seen today? Really dude? He doesn’t owe shit to anyone. How would you like if people tried to box you in? People change. People change year after year. You built him up to be the alt country Jesus and now you are pissed that he doesn’t want to be the poster boy? FFS get a life. We are talking about music, not curing cancer!
June 4, 2020 @ 8:01 pm
Thomas,
You and others are selectively reading Andrew’s comment. When he says, “We should be embarrassed!” he putting the onus on all of us.
Look what Andrew says in the next two sentences after the one you quoted, “Sturgill, like all artists and people, is entitled to his opinions and political beliefs. He is entitled to write and sing political songs if that’s what he chooses to do.”
First important thing to note, Andrew isn’t talking about country music here at all. This is part of the reason the topic of Sturgill has become so contentious, because all that Sturgill fans continue to focus on is this belief that country fans hate him because he didn’t make a country record. You see this over, and over, even though the issue is so far beyond that, and has been clarified many times.
As Andrew goes on to explain, “What he should NOT be permitted to get away with is encouraging, whether willfully or negligently, a group of music fans to stop supporting music, artists, and each other on the basis of politics.”
This is the fundamental reason both Sturgill Simpson and Jason Isbell have become so vilified by many country fans. It’s because they both have vilified their own fan bases.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:47 pm
I like and respect you.
Take a knee and fucking listen.
June 5, 2020 @ 8:09 am
Well, since you brought up Isbell…
I think it was it not too long after the election where Isbell said that he could understand how right wing Christin voters could vote for someone like Mitt Romney, who he said was a “stand-up” guy. That’s a fairly moderate thing for a leftie to say, given Romney’s “47%” comment during the 2012 election (many far lefties still bring up). And if he’s like me, he might even understand such a person supporting Ted Cruz (less of a stand-up guy, but a conservative and a Southern Baptist) over the likes of Hillary Clinton. I think for Isbell, it’s mostly about DJT and yes, some negative feelings for the people who STILL enthusiastically support him. Some of these people feel they are being vilified for their “political beliefs.” That’s a euphemism if I ever heard one.
Also, I would think it’s a smaller part of his fan base that felt this “vilification.” He’s influenced by country music, but he’s not a country music artist and never has been, unlike Sturgill. Back before there was such a genre term as Americana, we’d have call him folk rock, like electric Bob Dylan or Steve Forbert.
June 5, 2020 @ 9:51 am
I think the people who provide an artist’s livelihood are owed something. That doesn’t mean he can’t chase his muse wherever it goes, but do you really think he does anything natural right now? He’s forcing it. He has a god-given talent for making a specific kind of music (with other influences blended in nicely). He shouldn’t feel so shackled by that.
Ultimately he makes own decisions and feels however he feels, but we’re not obligated to chase him down any sonic rabbit hole, and we are allowed to be upset when his output suffers because of stubbornness, arrogance, and a perpetually-inflating ego.
June 4, 2020 @ 7:43 pm
I just can’t get behind the narrative of “Sturgill breeds hostility by turning his back on alt.country” or whatever. If members of the alt.country community can’t grow up and accept that artists don’t cater to their every whim and be respectful of those fans that still follow artists that move into other genres, then that’s not Sturgill’s fault.
I’ll admit, I’ve stayed away from the comments here for a while because they’ve become so hostile, especially surrounding Sturgill (who i still support and can’t wait to hear more from). But even though I’ve been staying away, I’ve never thought for a second that Sturgill was to blame. I think there’s a little too much projecting going on in that take.
June 4, 2020 @ 7:45 pm
He seems to have confused OUTLAW with ASSHOLE
June 4, 2020 @ 9:01 pm
On one hand Trig, thanks for covering this and Sturgill’s relief effort. I do think the comment is over the top and I know why it was left in and why you have an issue with Sturgill, though it is not my spot to say it. I get Sturgill is a mixed bag with people, but I’m looking forward to the bluegrass album.
June 4, 2020 @ 10:11 pm
Regarding that last and winded bit, it appears it was said in response to Sturgill’s interview with GQ magazine (or was it Vice? No matter). In hindsight, that interview was done out of spite in order to get out of his contract with Interscope. It worked. He’s out and now free to do what he wishes.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:29 am
Has it been confirmed he’s no longer with the major label for album 5? Bluegrass album on Thirty Tigers or Rounder?
June 5, 2020 @ 9:23 am
From what I understand, Sturgill has been let go from his contract with Elektra (previously Atlantic), however since he had album options and/or first right of refusal clauses, there still might be some legal entanglements to resolve. I’m not 100% of where the situation rests at the moment, but Sturgill may not be legally capable of releasing a new record at the moment. Have not heard about any potential label he might work with moving forward, but Sturgill would have his pick of the independents, though the way he left Elektra may have some going hands off, if he doesn’t choose to just release it himself.
June 5, 2020 @ 10:12 am
I think him commenting along the lines of “I just did what a bunch of high priced lawyers said I couldn’t do and get out of my contract” that was in one of the many deleted Instagram posts. His original deal was for 2 albums. At one point he said he was done. They must have had some type of first right of refusal for a 3rd. Kind of like a baseball ball player who gets signed to a contract that includes an option year. The team would have to sign the player or let him go. Sounds like the label may have tried picking up that option year.
June 5, 2020 @ 11:23 am
Thanks for the replies. Didn’t know about the contract comment. Maybe the Elektra rant was designed to sever ties then.
I’m thinking the detour with the bluegrass album is a momentum stabilizer because of writer’s block. He mentioned something about not knowing how to write songs anymore in the videotaped interview with John Prine from a couple years ago, and I’ve suspected he was struggling with that on the last two albums. As I said below, I personally think his strength is creating an overall vibe with his music (including hiring the right players when he goes electric) versus writing individually classic songs that stand on their own. But, he’s come up with some clever lyrics in the past, so it’d be cool if he could knock out some real gems on album 5. Not counting him out that’s for sure.
June 4, 2020 @ 11:43 pm
…is anyone all that surprised?
Yer man has banned comments on his blackout Tuesday post…presumably because too many people pointed out that the “Antifa” agitators he’d been pointing out on social media turned out to be the white supremacists he’d adamantly refused to call out for harming our cities.
At the same time, he’s VERY assiduous in “moderating” anyone who suggested that the SPLC might have a point.
Artists are only “political” when they say controversial stuff like “‘Murdering innocent people is bad. Don’t murder innocent people.”
Kyle isn’t racist.
He’s TOTALLY IMPARTIAL about human rights!!!
That’s why covering Sturgill (whose non-Metamodern albums I don’t even enjoy) is a struggle for him!
Sturgill’s being pro-“human rights” firmly contradicts this site’s stance of impartiality, on that front!
June 5, 2020 @ 9:27 am
“Yer man has banned comments on his blackout Tuesday post…presumably because too many people pointed out that the “Antifa” agitators he’d been pointing out on social media turned out to be the white supremacists he’d adamantly refused to call out for harming our cities.”
Yes, you are presuming. I closed that comments section because racists continued to try and post there. Also, I said THREE TIMES that right-wing extremists were also part of the agitators. As were members of Antifa, which has also been verified.
Also, do not take drama from one post and spill it into another again. Ever. Final warning.
June 5, 2020 @ 4:25 am
Most of my friends love Sturgill and are big fans of sound and fury, I haven’t met one person who cares about his political views or is honestly even aware of them. I think this trigger guy might just b a thin skinned conservative And honestly, you would have to b a nut to think your musical idols are gonna think the same as you. Sturgill is still head and shoulders above anyone else in the rock or country genres at the moment, which shouldn’t matter cuz who gives a shit what genre it is if it sounds good? He hasn’t betrayed anyone, who do y’all think u are to Sturgill? He doesn’t owe us shit, he’s the Bruce springsteen/Neil young of his time, U should try sittin back and enjoying that you’re a fan and aware of such talent, imperial phases don’t last long. This article came across as bitter and resentful, and saving country should b embarrassed by it. Y’all dumb.
June 5, 2020 @ 7:59 am
I would agree that most people don’t really care about his political views. He’s gonna have fans no matter what. Like every artist, some will dig him and some won’t. But I also wouldn’t call him head and shoulders above anyone else in the rock or even country genres. I enjoyed the overall vibe of S&F but the mastering made it almost unlistenable and the “riff” on Best Clockmaker is… I’ll hold back. Basically, I don’t think it was just for fun that he pulled Laur in as a ringer on electric for MM.
Sturgill excels at bluegrass and acoustic. Are any of his songs classics that will be covered years from now in, let alone outside of, that world? I don’t know. I personally think he’s not the world’s greatest songwriter (definitely hasn’t written a Thunder Road or a Heart of Gold yet), but for me a lot of it just has to do with his overall vibe as an artist, which I dig. His musical presence was needed.
June 5, 2020 @ 6:07 am
I think the articles here were more focused on music when it was not trigger’s job. So there are more articles now, but of a wider variety than just music.
June 5, 2020 @ 6:10 am
All of these comments and the most important question hasn’t been addressed…what is a ‘fair weather bitch’? Is it someone who only comes out to participate when the conditions are fair to them as opposed to poor? If so, wouldn’t it be more insulting to be a great weather bitch? Maybe I’ll check the ol urban dictionary.
June 5, 2020 @ 7:05 am
You’ve heard the expression fair weather friend, right?
June 5, 2020 @ 7:45 am
I haven’t…but I did look it up and see that it’s pretty close to my interpretation. This must be signs of me getting old, or increasingly unsocial 😉
June 5, 2020 @ 9:18 am
I’ll just say this. If myself, or some pop country artist was referring to themselves as the “Dick Daddy,” and was throwing around the term “bitches” freely, like I don’t know, Mitchell Tenpenny did and was widely crucified for, the blue checkmarked pearl clutchers would be all over Sturgill Simpson’s case as a misogynist. But since they view him favorably, he gets a pass.
June 5, 2020 @ 9:24 am
Fair weather bitch adj. — A whiny prog rock musician who is only happy when everyone is tugging his tentacle and praising his every whine.
June 5, 2020 @ 6:58 am
Too bad Sturgill’s actions haven’t been used to heal divisions rather than create them. This is especially so in our SCM community.
June 5, 2020 @ 8:16 am
If the point was just to let us know about the streaming concert and album then why post the other shit. If you don’t like Sturgill then don’t listen to him. It’s that simple. Just like if you don’t like something on tv, change the station. Sturgill is one of my favorites and will continue to support. Artist are people and have their own opinions. We don’t all have to agree with everyone. Relax people
June 5, 2020 @ 9:37 am
That guy Andrew, his post is amazing and spot on. Now it turns out Sturgill was the one playing dress up.
June 5, 2020 @ 10:02 am
“Now it turns out Sturgill was the one playing dress up.”
Should be the name of his next album…
June 5, 2020 @ 10:06 am
Does anyone know if/how Sturgill’s streaming show will be available for those not available to watch it live? Will y**tube keep it up to watch as a video? Looking forward to watching and listening to it after I get off from work tonight.
June 5, 2020 @ 12:04 pm
Its on Instagram and not sure if he will keep it up after he finishes on his page. You don’t need an instagram to watch it, just Google sturgill simpson Instagram and go to his page. You can’t comment but you can watch. If lucky, someone will record it and post it on YouTube
June 5, 2020 @ 1:29 pm
I doubt that it will be kept up on youtube very long. You can watch it live on his official youtube channel.
June 5, 2020 @ 6:44 pm
As of this moment it’s up for future viewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO73im4J2sU&feature=youtu.be
I ripped it so I can watch it in the future in the event it does get pulled.
June 8, 2020 @ 8:02 am
I don’t follow closely enough all of the things outside of “music” that Sturgill does…but wow, this bluegrass performance was great.
June 5, 2020 @ 11:29 am
This is nuts. You claim the point of this article is about the live stream, but devote far more to the post script than the article. Not counting direct quotes from Sturgill, you have 11 sentences on the live stream and 21 on the post script, before even getting to the comment from someone else.
Speaking of the comment, you say that writing and this site is your livelihood. But then you go against that by saying you arent going to do your livelihood and explain your decision, and that someone else says it better than you. It shows 1) that you dont care, 2) that readers should read something else, cause the comment section is better than your own writing, in your eyes admittedly.
“Sturgill Simpson’s blatant betrayal of his original genre, fanbase, and message certainly was capable and DID almost single-handedly cause this community to become an UGLY place through creating needless hostility between, what used to be, unified supporters of a special and under appreciated type of music.”
wait it is the artist’s fault that some fans couldnt handle a different direction, and then his fault that they got so upset that had to start screaming about it? Talk about a load of bullshit. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, Sturgill didnt make people get pissed off, didnt make them start arguments and fights on the internet , they chose that themselves. How about people have some accountability for their actions?
June 5, 2020 @ 12:40 pm
The title of the article is, “Sturgill Simpson To Play Live Stream + Note on Sturgill Coverage.” That is what this article is about. It took more words to explain the coverage issue than to announce a live stream, which is just a pretty basic announcement. I’m not really sure why it matters how many sentences were devoted to what. Both items had as many sentences as they needed to be thorough in the reporting. And trust me, if I had segmented this into two articles, the hounds from Strugill fans would be even more demonstrative.
Remember, Sturgill Simpson instigated this. Not me. He called out the media specifically for not covering him. All I did was explain why.
As far as choosing to use a comment instead of my own words, as I said, I thought it illustrated the concern better than my own words could. And since the topic was the community surrounding Saving Country Music, I felt having a community member speak would be better than myself. I’m not so proud of my writing that I can’t cede the podium to someone else. And I regularly see people say they come to the site for the comments primarily. I’m not offended by that. I want there to be discussion, dissenting viewpoints, and engagement. Not sure how that’s an indictment on this as my livelihood.
June 5, 2020 @ 1:39 pm
Lol didn’t read, but Sturgill is back BABY! STURGILLL SIMPSON MOTHER FUCKER WOOoOOoOOoOo
June 5, 2020 @ 1:49 pm
Didn’t read but I saw Sturgill’s name so I’d like to present my dissertation on the state of him, how he relates to your website, and how he impacts THE WORLD negatively. Thanks for listening.
June 5, 2020 @ 2:08 pm
He had 2 good albums, 1 alright album and 1 shitty album. That’s a pretty damn good career I think. But he’s kind of like a boxer late in his career, if he has 1 more poor performance he slips into irrelevancy.
June 7, 2020 @ 7:20 pm
Imagine writing this, reading it to make sure it’s what you really want to say, then posting it. Yeesh.
June 5, 2020 @ 3:31 pm
His country albums must be pretty good to get so many knickers in such a twist. I enjoyed watching The Sound and Fury, once. But honestly other than coming across as sort of a hopped up putz who should probably be clearing brush instead of instagramming he seems adequate. Shit Jerry Lee Lewis married his 14 year old first-cousin and very possibly murdered two of his wives! It seems like a tempest in a tea kettle and I prescribe two hours of Chet Atkins for anyone who is fired up about this!
June 5, 2020 @ 3:49 pm
It seems like his most recent subversive attitude online and in interviews are often a means to an end. That’s not to say he can’t be an asshole, or that the burden is on the press to cover his deleted tweets. But that Uproxx interview was targeted toward and evidently meant to piss off his record label, who owns the publication, and get him out of a contract. Well, It seems to have worked. Trashing his producer may have put the nail in that coffin of ever giving the label the type of album they want from him and burnt the personal bridge to seal the deal. This may be why he’s going forward with bluegrass versions of his back catalog, rather than new music. There may be pending disputes w/the label regarding recording new material, but he does own his own songs, so why not record different versions? It also appears that his tweet about calling friends and press “fair weather bitches” who “if I fart or say something sensational or get ‘Rona” and “If I sat on the toilet giving a play by play of a white house press conference” would get him publicity, did, indeed, get him the very sensational publicity he insisted it would. By this sight and other publications. This is all speculation on my part but if there’s any truth to it, it seems like he’s, somewhat cleverly, playing the part he needs to to accomplish what he wants, reputation be damned. Im not a diehard Sturgill fan boy but I think he’s written some great songs, is a great performer with a great voice and an important figure in the realm of country/folk/rock/Americana music. I’ll always listen to what he’s doing bc I think he has a unique perspective and approach. That said, I’ll keep checking out SCM for the exact same reasons.
June 5, 2020 @ 4:27 pm
There’s no doubt that Sturgill Simpson used the Uproxx interview to get out of his Elektra contract, and he caused a lot of collateral damage to do it. Don’t necessarily fault him, but you can’t fault Chris Stapleton, Dave Cobb, The Grammy Awards, fans of “High Top Mountain,” and whomever else he flamethrowed in the process.
Throwing an unnecessary and undeserved grenade at the press didn’t result in him receiving more press. He did that way back on May 23rd. The reason the press finally covered what he was doing is because nugs.net released a statement where the information could be found and verified. I respect however Sturgill wants to disseminate information, including deleting the stuff he posts shortly thereafter. I simply was explaining why the press wasn’t covering him, since himself and many of his fans had called that into question, and specifically criticized myself and others.
June 5, 2020 @ 3:53 pm
I like Sturgill, saw him live in NYC with the Dap Kings and it was great, but there’s too much good music out there to lament about what he’s up to lately, I’ll give it a listen and I appreciate his journey, but I I have limited time to listen to music and its not worth my time to stress out about Politics in music. If he does something good I’ll listen if not I’ll move on. We all have demons and I try not to air out my laundry to everyone. Psyched about the new Charlie Crockett and John Baumann and of course the Moonpies, life is good!
June 5, 2020 @ 5:09 pm
Amazing stuff so far. Awesome, humble intro by Sturgill, and he explains a bit about his online presence. He sounds great…even clear annunciation of the vocals.
This new album is going to be so goddamn good.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:11 pm
It sounds excellent. Great feed from the Ryman.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:16 pm
That’s quality!!! The way it should be done.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:10 pm
imagine being so butthurt by sturg some of you are missing this great show. lol.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:22 pm
and it’s two albums, vol i and ii of bluegrass material, sounds like new and new-old material. not sure if there’ll be an update on here.
June 5, 2020 @ 7:53 pm
I’ve been told it’s too soon to just go back to normal, silence is violence and all that. Glad you were enjoying yourself though.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:15 pm
Holy shit Sturgill can take my money. It sounds great.
June 5, 2020 @ 5:20 pm
Glad I can look past things and enjoy the talent. They sound great tonight!!
June 5, 2020 @ 5:22 pm
Pretty good so far. Two bluegrass albums coming this year and sounds like he got out of his contract whatever that means.
June 5, 2020 @ 9:01 pm
He was probably contractually obligated to deliver two more albums to his label, and now he’s got the opportunity to do it on the cheap, easy, and quick. He’ll be conveniently out of his contract by the end of the year.
I thought tonight’s gig sounded great and I have no doubt the new albums will sound great too. However I do think it’s a little bit of a copout to re-record the hits as bluegrass versions. I think he’s lyrically out of steam these days. I loved the style and sound of Sound & Fury, but it was a drag lyrically. Grumpy and humorless. He’s got nothing to say lyrically these days that’s relatable. I just can’t relate to a wealthy misanthropic superstar complaining about life.
June 5, 2020 @ 7:21 pm
He even made a corona / bat eating joke. Hopefully that will help some of his more conservative “former fans” come back into the fold. 😃
June 5, 2020 @ 7:31 pm
Thank you sturgill. That hit the spot
June 6, 2020 @ 6:16 am
On the one hand, it seems a bit early in has career to take the “re-recording old material” route. On the other hand, the livestream was pretty kick-ass, which has me looking forward to these albums.
June 6, 2020 @ 8:41 pm
Great music, but Sturgill makes himself look like an idiot every time he opens his mouth outside the context of a song. I cringed several times at his inarticulate banter that had no point at any point.
June 7, 2020 @ 4:28 am
Sounds like you stepped right in Sturgill’s Troll Trap to me.
June 8, 2020 @ 7:24 am
4 days later, I listened to the livestream live, and then once per day afterward.
Kyle, Stu’s comment towards you was completely uncalled for and it made me cringe reading it, but I hope that you can look past it in the future and see it as misplaced venting in a rocky time in a man’s life.
He’s a bit of an asshole, but he’s a tremendous artist, and not covering him is a disservice to all, including your traffic numbers.
June 8, 2020 @ 9:14 am
It wasn’t just about Sturgill’s comments about me. Trust me, I’ve had much more famous people say much worse. If anything, Sturgill’s acknowledgement helps the cause here. It was also about him attacking Dave Cobb, Chris Stapleton, The Grammy Awards, his first solo record, and the general disruption of the community that helped form his grassroots early in his career, and now music media in general that poured tons of positive ink out for him for years.
But truly, it’s all water under the bridge now. That’s the way I look at it, and that’s the way I hope everyone looks at it. I simply wanted to lay out why I hadn’t, and why I won’t be hanging on his every word from now on so neither Sturgill nor anyone else criticizes me every time he makes an Instagram post (and takes it down 24 hours later), and I don’t write a story about it.
I truly wish the best for Sturgill, thought the live stream was excellent, and look forward to covering the new album.
June 8, 2020 @ 8:25 pm
RE: social media
I don’t have a problem with someone deleting social media posts after a certain length of time. I set my twitter account to only keep posts up for 90 days. That’s long enough for anyone interested enough to read them and by then a topic has usually run its course. If everyone set their social media (FB, INSTA, TWITTER) etc with a 90 or 120 day limit, we’d have a lot less controversy in the world, I mean, I get pissed when my wife brings up something I said 10 or 15 years ago, and I’m sure she feels the same when/if I do it to her. Social media is not the 10 commandments carved in rock. They are passing comments (some might call it verbal vomit) on a topic and those passing comments should fade into the wind
June 15, 2020 @ 8:51 pm
Trigger- thanks for the reviews over the years, you’ve had some good ones, turned me on to some good music. But I’m out. Your coverage of Sturgill over the past year (and I’ve read it all) has done as much to fuel the flames of this pointless spat than anything he’s apparently done. I think your understanding of journalism is lacking. There is no such thing as a completely objective journalist, nor an apolitical journalist. The comment you posted just served the purpose of saying what you felt restrained to say yourself- the misunderstood conservative, the supposed differences between art and politics, the debt that Sturgill supposedly owes you, traditional country music, and conservative audiences. There is no self-respecting journalist that posts a self flattering comment as the focal point of their article. I don’t mean to argue, I’m just bummed to have to give up on this site. I was really with you for a while.
June 16, 2020 @ 10:03 am
Jon,
Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for reading. I value everyone’s readership, it’s folks like you coming to the site to read that has allowed me to make a living pursuing my passion to write about country music, and it hurts my heart every time I lose a reader.
The only thing that I would say in an attempt to win you back is to point out that the comment I posted above was from a reader who also said they were also taking a step back from Saving Country Music—something I’ve seen from numerous readers, and very specifically tied to Sturgill Simpson, from BOTH sides of the political divide, and from BOTH current fans of Sturgill Simpson, and fans that he’s lost over the years. I’ve also heard from people saying they will never read the site again because I wasn’t reporting on Sturgill’s Instagram posts. This right here illustrates what a toxic subject Sturgill Simpson has become, not just for this site, but for all of media. The reason I posted the comment I posted was because it illustrated how this subject has caused a lot of destruction in the independent country music community, and as someone who is located dead center within it, I can confirm this. Your comment does the same, even if it comes from the polar opposite perspective.
I post something positive about Sturgill Simpson, I’m pandering and I lose readers. I post something negative and I’m a butthurt country fan, and probably voted for Trump. I post nothing and I’m being a “fair weather” friend. I literally cannot win. Anything I do is going to piss off 50% of my readers, and to such a point they will stop reading. THAT is why I posted this article, to attempt to explain this dichotomy, and to explain why I can’t continue to post about every little thing he does. Because untimely I won’t have any website left. NO other artist or subject in the last 13 years has had this kind of acidic affect on the community I have sacrificed so much to attempt to build here.
I hope the best for Sturgill, will still continue to report on him when there’s important news. And I hope you continue to read. Because the main focus on this site always has been and will continue to be championing unhearalded artists. I was the first to ever champion Sturgill Simpson. This is what I do. And it’s what I will continue to do.
Thanks for reading,
–Kyle “Trigger”
June 16, 2020 @ 5:35 pm
Kyle- I very much appreciate your thoughtful response, and as long as you continue to highlight the best of the unheralded artists, I’ll stick around. I think Stugill is less the cause of this lose-lose situation you seem to be in than a spark in increasingly flammable, polarized times, where politics can’t help but seep into the spaces we previously considered apolitical. I’m going to go so far as to say that we probably have a number of political disagreements (having read the site for a few years, as much as you do your best to be apolitical), and that’s totally fine. I’d never say to stay out of politics- you’re a writer, you have your personal politics, and it’s you’re right to express them how you’d like. But if you wade into that water, which Sturgill often represents (which is particular because he really isn’t that political in comparison to many other artists), you will lose readers, and I think you must be OK with that. Personally, I appreciate this site for all the new music I have found here, and the generally spot on reviews. I very much respect and encourage keeping your focus on that. I look for political commentary elsewhere, though I’m sure there are others who really appreciate your coverage of the more political issues in country music, and I respect that.
It’s a very different world now from when you first started this site, and it’s up to you how you respond. Not all the fans will love it – I may not love it- but do what you think is best, intentionally, understanding you may lose fans. Regardless, I think this is a deeper issue than Sturgill, though it is very interesting that much of this does revolve around him. Like it or not, I think it speaks to his significance within serious country/county-adjacent music, and perhaps it would be helpful to look at it more within this larger scope. Thanks for all the music and the kind response.
Jon