Chapel Hart’s Moving On From Playing the Industry Game

In many respects, the family trio Chapel Hart from Mississippi has been successful beyond imagination in the music business. As completely independent artists, sisters Danica Hart, Devynn Hart, and cousin Trea Swindle have appeared on big stages in the nine years of hustling to make it in music, and in the six years traveling back and forth to Nashville to try and break through in the industry.
Chapel Hart debuted on the Grand Ole Opry in 2022. Their song “You Can Have Him Jolene” has over 5 million plays on Spotify and earned the praise of Dolly Parton herself. They were personally requested by Loretta Lynn to write the song “Welcome to Fist City” prior to her death. They’ve appeared with numerous major artists both live and in recorded form, including on Darius Rucker’s recent album Carolyn’s Boy.
Most notably, on the 17th season of America’s Got Talent, Chapel Hart earned the coveted “golden buzzer” from all the judges, and competed in the finals. When audiences have been exposed to what Chapel Hart does live, they enjoy it, and it resonates. But recently while attending the CMA Awards, they came to a hard conclusion. Despite all the success, accolades, and recognition they’ve received, they’re never going to “make it” in the music business in the conventional sense. So they’re making a conscious decision to stop trying.
In a video posted on Sunday, November 12th, the trio explained that from now on, they’re going to focus significantly less on the hustle, and much more on simply making music the right way, and connecting with fans. Among other things, this means they will be making a conscious effort to play less public shows, and more schools, Veteran’s hospitals, and others such events. And when they do play public performances, it will be for free to allow the music to reach as many people as possible, and be supported through donation and merch sales.
“We’ve been trying so hard to make it in the music business, to break into the music industry. As many of you know, we’re still independent, and still doing it out here on our own,” Danica Hart explained. “We’re trying our very best to keep up with those who are in the music industry, and on a record label. And in a way I feel like we’ve done pretty well because our names are in conversations.”
“We went to the CMAs the other night, and in the room that only industry people have access to. Every single person knew who Chapel Hart was. Exciting news for us, but also sad news, because for us that means everyone knows who we are, and we still don’t have a record deal, we still don’t have a publishing deal, we still don’t have sponsorships, and we’re still out here busting our tails. We’ve been on the road this year more than we ever have.”
Danica and Chapel Hart also talked about getting booked at 1,200-1,500 capacity venues, but only having 400 people show up for the show. For many independent bands and artists, drawing 400 people to a show would be a big deal. But no matter who you are, if you’re only filling up 1/3rd of the venue you’re booked at, it’s a bad look, even if all 400 of those people had a great time.
This is why you often see artists selling out shows at venues that are too small for them, because the industry wants to see you succeed at certain level before you graduate to bigger spaces. Perhaps with Chapel Hart, they bit off a little more than they could chew after the big success proceeding America’s Got Talent.
“Ultimately, it stops you from being added on to other things because they say you can’t sell tickets,” Danica Hart explained, which has put the trio in a precarious position. Despite their appeal and name recognition, it’s become difficult to impossible for them to positively more forward, at least in the conventional music industry. So they’re deciding instead to stay independent, and restructure their priorities.
“We’re just so tired of trying to compete in an industry that is just making no effort,” Danica said. “This is to serve notice that we are no longer competing in the industry … We’re so busy trying to keep up in an industry who isn’t even acknowledging us when we could be doing the things that really make our heart happy. We’re not here to play fame. We’re not here to get famous. We’re here to serve the people. We’re here to write the songs that makes you feel good from the inside out.”
“We’re deciding to stand 30 toes down … We got to get back to our original commitment. We were here for the people. We were here for our fans … We’re just gonna open the doors. We started to make people happy, to write music that people love, to watch people grow, to grow with our fans.”
Part of the prevailing issue with Chapel Hart has been that they don’t fit perfectly anywhere in the country music world. Though they’re plan was to break through into the mainstream, their independent spirit has kept them from being the kind of malleable stars that will bend to the will of producers and label executives that labels are looking for.
If you listen to Chapel Hart albums and see them perform, their music is a mix of staunchly traditional country, with playful pop sensibilities. This places one foot on each side of the country music cultural divide, which makes it difficult for them to be completely accepted in either world. Then there is the obvious difficulty of trying to launch a trio of Black women in the country music business, which continues to remain a high hurdle.
Another issue was Chapel Hart’s desire to see their dreams fulfilled through the conventional mainstream country music industry as opposed to trying to find their home in the independent world. At one point during their announcement, they explained how there’s only about 50 performers who make it onto mainstream country radio, and they wanted to open shows for just one of them, if not be one of those 50.
Meanwhile, we’re seeing artists who have never had success on country radio breaking out as some of the biggest stars in the industry at the moment. Tyler Childers and Billy Strings are selling out arenas, and Zach Bryan is filling stadiums. It’s a new day in country music, and radio play and Music Row label deals are not the only way to success in the country music business, though most certainly this perception continues to persist among many people, especially in the performer class.
With so many country music festivals these days and those festivals specifically looking for Black performers to fulfill diversity desires, Chapel Hart should be getting big considerations, and well before hip-hop artists like we’re strangely seeing from so many festivals.
Due to their divergent country sound, Chapel Hart has had a hard time finding their home in the music. But if they’re drawing 400 people to live shows, they should be able to support themselves moving forward, and be able to build a bigger grassroots following from that base.
Recalibrating from the dream of mainstream major label/radio success is often the best remedy for an artist demoralized from what’s happening in their country career. Hopefully this will put Chapel Hart on a better track, and open up new opportunities for them in the independent world.
November 14, 2023 @ 11:01 am
Good luck to ’em.
No record deal is better than a bad record deal.
I think it’s easier than ever to make a living as an artist. You just have to make a little bit of money a lot of different ways.
November 15, 2023 @ 3:43 am
“I think it’s easier than ever to make a living as an artist. You just have to make a little bit of money a lot of different ways” ,
that s great news, can you give me some suggestion in private?
Thanks and your music rules.
November 15, 2023 @ 6:47 am
Thanks. The internet is the biggest thing. You can pitch songs via email. I’ve gotten more than one cut from just emailing someone’s manager out of the blue. People aren’t making as much money on physical product, but there is more demand for music in shows on streaming platforms like Netflix and Hulu, and artists can record music at home for very little money. The internet can find you an audience all over the world from the comfort of your bedroom. Youtube monetizes content. Facebook monetizes content. I think the problem is that our expectations of what it means to be a successful artist has become really skewed. There were HUGE stars in the 50s and 60s busting around the us packed in station wagons. Most stars would be way too good for that these days. Bill Anderson told me that it’s not any more difficult these days to make a living than it was when he grew up, it’s just different. Your mindset is the most important thing, and Chapel Hart has the fire to make it work.
November 14, 2023 @ 11:07 am
I could have swore I read that the one in the middle died or am I imagining things?
November 14, 2023 @ 11:32 am
You must be imagining things because she’s the one I quoted in the article. She did have some health issues a while back.
November 14, 2023 @ 12:28 pm
Maybe that was it.
Anyway you know the one in the shorts number?
November 14, 2023 @ 11:22 am
They’ll be fine. More and more artists are succeeding outside of the system these days, and Chapel Hart already has a huge advantage over most as far as name recognition and connections with established stars.
The article hinted that they may have turned down some opportunities with labels because the producers wanted them to change their style. Staying true to yourself will win you more loyal fans in the long run, which sounds like what they really want. I wish them the best of luck.
November 14, 2023 @ 12:06 pm
Seems like an obvious case of racism. I live in the South and I can tell you that nearly every time I hear the music coming from the car of a black man it is 90’s and older country music. So why are they choosing to not listen to an act that is perfectly tailored to them?? Obviously it is because white men are using their bias and prejudice to keep black men from liking black female country artists.
November 14, 2023 @ 12:14 pm
I see what you did there.
For the record, Chapel Hart is not claiming racism, and I am not claiming racism as the reason they’re not finding support from the industry. Is race playing a role in the fact that they can’t find a label to sign with? My guess it is. But I also think that how they pull from both traditional country and pop country appeal, and they’re clearly independent women that a label is not going to be able to mold into what they want them to be makes them less enticing than other acts in the mainstream. I think if they focused more on independent labels and independent channels, they’d find more support. If you can draw 400 people to your shows and have a track will 5 million plays on Spotify, there is appeal in your music.
November 14, 2023 @ 1:01 pm
The one thing that does complicate their situation is there are three of them in the band. They have to make three times the money to make it work for them than an an artist who works alone would. It’s tough as an individual. It seems like it would be brutal as a group.
I’ve found country music fans in the south can be pretty hostile to folks of color. They have a tough row to hoe.
November 14, 2023 @ 1:44 pm
Almost all acts–whether they’re billed as a solo artist, a duo, a trio or a foursome–have bands. It’s not like if you’re promoted as a solo act, the band–and the other support staff–work for free.
Working and making it as a solo act is tough, if you have not reached a certain level of stardom. A trio has more flexibility and can try different things during the performances, like injecting humor
November 14, 2023 @ 5:45 pm
@Conrad Fisher “ I’ve found country music fans in the south can be pretty hostile to folks of color.”
I’ve seen Charley Crockett twice in the deep south and everyone in attendance was nothing but enthusiastic and supportive of him and his band (also majoritively people of color). Would very much like to hear a few instances in your personal experience.
November 14, 2023 @ 6:18 pm
In North Carolina I had a gig where the booker got us two separate AirBnBs to stay in. He called me to make sure “those black boys” stayed at the same place I did so I could keep an eye on them.
In Virginia we were waiting to walk on stage at an outdoor event. Someone in a big truck stopped along the road to yell f****** n*g**** at my band. The bass player and drummer are black.
Maybe I just get all the turds.
November 14, 2023 @ 9:05 pm
Pride disagrees.
November 15, 2023 @ 6:36 am
I’m glad you brought up Charlie Pride. RCA didn’t send out publicity photos of him with his first two records because they were afraid DJs wouldn’t play the songs because the color of his skin. Charlie’s success says way more about him than it does about country music fans.
I could pretend that the instances I mentioned didn’t happen, but they did, and both were in the south. Of course, MOST people are cool about it, but it only takes one crazy racist guy to make things feel unsafe. Crossville, TN for example has (or did in 2021) a huge confederate flag when you got off the exit on 40 coming from Nashville. Then there were about 10 of them hanging off the building alongside the venue we played. That’s not a threat, but it’s enough to make the band want to sleep somewhere closer to Knoxville the night after the show.
Empathy, man.
November 15, 2023 @ 3:44 pm
A flag?
Terrifying.
November 15, 2023 @ 3:50 pm
aren’t you afraid of the rainbow flag?
November 15, 2023 @ 10:57 am
Your insight is enlightening, thanks for commenting. It’s nice hearing from artists with firsthand experience.
November 14, 2023 @ 8:10 pm
I just love Chapel Hart! And I’m definitely not a country music fan at all. I detest most country music. But Chapel Hart is real! There’s nothing fake about them! It’s too bad they have never been offered a record deal. But I’m glad that they are still going to be entertaining. I wish only good luck on their futures!
November 15, 2023 @ 6:35 am
I just love chapel hart and turn people on to their music every time I see anyone that hasn’t heard their music .I wish them a lot of good luck and hope they make albums soon . They will win in the end don’t give up .love your music
November 14, 2023 @ 1:06 pm
Chapel Hart is a fantastic group. I like country music, but I love Chapel Hart. Stand your ground girls!! One day all those labels will realize what a treasure they passed by. When it’s warmer out, please consider coming up to Connecticut.
November 14, 2023 @ 1:39 pm
I enjoy Chapel Hart’s music. I think they would be great for countrybradio, especially when others who stradle the divide like Hailey Whitters and Megan Moroney finding success there. Is Kaitlin Butts signed to any independent labelTrigger or is she independent also? I’d love to start seeing some of these country roots ladies to get a major label deal.
November 14, 2023 @ 3:33 pm
Kaitlin Butts is signed to Soundly Music, which similar to Thirty Tigers, is like a mix between a label and a distribution company that allows the artist more autonomy.
November 14, 2023 @ 5:21 pm
I love chapel hart. A good group of ladies
November 14, 2023 @ 1:45 pm
They are…wait for it…too country for country music.
November 14, 2023 @ 1:47 pm
I’ll take them over Breland any day. The “industry” has been trying to shove him down the collective throats of country fans, with high visibility on billboards and in media with little to show for it. Chapel Hart is already 10x more organically successful than this Urkel doppelgänger, yet not getting the same love from the industry. I say good on them
November 14, 2023 @ 2:11 pm
I’d Like to see them Sign with Cody Jinks Label !…..Then Open Up for Him. Jus’ Puttin’ that Out There !
November 15, 2023 @ 2:57 pm
yeah, honestly they’re not too far off from what Erin Viancourt (who’s on Cody’s label and opens for him) sounds like. I could see that.
November 14, 2023 @ 3:03 pm
“If you listen to Chapel Hart albums and see them perform, their music is a mix of staunchly traditional country, with playful pop sensibilities. This places one foot on each side of the country music cultural divide, which makes it difficult for them to be completely accepted in either world.”
I think this explains the situation perfectly.
November 14, 2023 @ 3:31 pm
These ladies are great! People need to listen to their lyrics.
I’m so sick of the beer and truck songs that all sound alike
November 14, 2023 @ 3:34 pm
They are a great group and I miss listening to them hopefully things will change I try to buy records but on hard to find they deserve a full audience no matter where they perform they are a special group with a lot of talent and they should be ranked right up there on top of the list hope things change quick
November 14, 2023 @ 3:34 pm
Optically they are already facing a major uphill battle. Their music sounds like karaoke even if it is using a 90’s country backing track. It’s mean but it’s true.
November 15, 2023 @ 6:28 pm
You hit the nail on the head. My knowledge on them is limited but I seen the idol performance and a few of their other big moments and they just didn’t seem anything special to me. Not bad, just “meh” I think if you’re going to step outside of the mold then you really got to be next level either vocally or lyrically and they don’t do either for me.
November 14, 2023 @ 3:35 pm
Love the group
November 14, 2023 @ 4:26 pm
If you are not an arena act, you just need to get your MBA in how to be a profitable lower-tier artist. You get that by listening to every podcast BJ Barham does. And doing what he did. You don’t need a huge number of fans if you have super-dedicated fans, and you cultivate them. So few artists get this, but then not many people (myself included) have the inexhaustible drive that BJ has.
November 15, 2023 @ 7:24 am
which podcasts have you heard him on that you recommend? I’m no artist but would love to hear BJ talk about his journey and process.
He rips (similar to jeremy pinnell)
November 14, 2023 @ 6:00 pm
Love Chapel Hart. Have ever since I heard them. They can play for me and others like me who think they’re a great country act. I’ll take them over a lot of the attest (new) today. May God bless you Chapel Hart.
November 14, 2023 @ 6:35 pm
I love them I don’t care for the new songs these new country artists have out but chapel hart is real their music is about life how it was takes you back to the way when the world was good we need to rember thoes days if not we are gonna forget the good I could listen to them sing every day they are amazing sweetest personality I hope they continue singing amazing young ladies god bless you on your journey
November 14, 2023 @ 6:34 pm
So proud of what you ladies are doing. You are totally awesome. Fan for ever .Val kostelnick
November 14, 2023 @ 6:35 pm
Always awesome for whatever you do.
November 15, 2023 @ 10:42 am
Hi Chappell Heart! Just wanted to give you a shout out . You gave me one when my son told you how much I loved your music. You girls kerp doing what is right for ya. Those record labels are missing out. I also think people should start calling the radio stations and request Jolene. My favorite song right now. So I will be requesting this song every day. As well as some of your others
God Bless you. Keep your heads up because people do know who you are! With all my love to you all , Mrs.Toni Barnett.
November 14, 2023 @ 6:37 pm
If eminem can be famous in the rap music world then why cant 3 very sexy good spirited black ladies make it in the country music world? I wasnt a big fan of country music until i saw chapel hart on agt it blew me away. She said they werent the faces of country music. Honey up you were better than the common faces of country music. I live in Springfield massachusetts. A very diverse ethnic city. I bet if they had a concert here in Springfield they would sell out the venue. If you are running into problems in the south honeys ? Dont stay in the south!!!
November 14, 2023 @ 6:44 pm
Know your plans will certainly work out. Keep doing what you are doing. Val kostelnick
November 14, 2023 @ 8:56 pm
Is it possible that they are tied to bullshit agreements with America’s got talent and none of the small/mid labels want to mess with it?
November 14, 2023 @ 11:40 pm
“In a video posted on Sunday, November 12th, the trio explained that from now on, they’re going to focus significantly less on the hustle, and much more on simply making music the right way, and connecting with fans. Among other things, this means they will be making a conscious effort to play less public shows, and more schools, Veteran’s hospitals, and others such events. And when they do play public performances, it will be for free to allow the music to reach as many people as possible, and be supported through donation and merch sales.”
I think this is excellent.
Love this trio of Ladies!
Don’t give up, Girls.
Maybe The Lord has better things for you, than to kowtow to some idiotic “label.”
: D Am sure He does.
Thank you in advance for keeping your eyes on God.
💜
November 15, 2023 @ 4:45 am
Taylor Swift, pick up the phone please. Time to pay back country music for being your launching pad. Give this act an opening spot. I’m sure they could put together a set that would suit the pop crowd.
November 15, 2023 @ 5:49 am
As a sister trio (plus dad) who doesn’t look like a bunch of blonde bombshells and sing pop country, I can say it really is hard to get any traction. I think women in general have to work 10 times as hard to get any kind of recognition because men (as a whole) don’t tend to listen to women artists. Not like they do men, anyway. This isn’t a pity party or anything, just an observation of someone who’s been performing for 20+ years.
November 15, 2023 @ 6:26 am
Everyone will have their own opinion but I can understand the record labels. Chapel Hart are in my opinion not that good. Not the worst either and I would think they are entertaining live. A good opening act but not the headliner? I do not think their colour comes into it at all,. Just business. Who would buy their albums? Nowhere near as good as the very talented War and Treaty for example who I think are superb.
November 15, 2023 @ 6:44 am
You have to sell your soul to the devil to be super successful in the music industry.
Ladies please stay away from the major labels.
You will be blessed to remain independent.
I don’t see why some of the top CW artist are not putting Chapel Hart on their tours .
So some love to these awesome ladles.
November 15, 2023 @ 8:21 am
wait, so Lizzo is in a country band now?
November 15, 2023 @ 8:49 am
Well,the middle lady isn’t my idea of sexy (she’s likely heavier than Yours Truly,who’s 5’9″, 200 pounds),but I’d never heard of Chapel Hart,and I’ll keep an ear pealed (peeled ?) for them because of Trigger’s recommendation.
November 15, 2023 @ 9:04 am
I’ve enjoyed country music of all styles over the years, and always will. Whether it’s traditional country, country pop, Western swing, country rock,country blues, or bluegrass, I’m all in. I really wanted Chapel Hart to make it big time, but it really stinks on ice that they haven’t gotten a record deal, publishing deal, or even been an opening act for the likes of Garth Brooks, Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton, or even Uncle Kracker. One possible reason Chapel Hart hasn’t gotten any traction: country music has always been the domain of your typical White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Sure, Ray Charles hit it big with “Modern Sounds In Country And Western Music”, but he primarily worked in rhythm and blues and in soul. Charley Pride also hit it big in country music during the 1970s, but I’m reading where his favorite label RCA records didn’t want to show his smiling face on the sleeves of the records being shipped to the radio station disc jockeys for fear that they didn’t want to play any of that race stuff. Then there’s Johnny Rodriguez, the first Latino to succeed in country music, and that wouldn’t have happened if Tom T. Hall didn’t believe in him. But Ray Charles and Charley Pride have been an anomaly. Country music has always been the province of the white man. How much do you want to bet that the record label executives in Nashville are thinking to themselves “why should we sign those three women from the hood when they’re just going to turn around and get in some rapping? They’re just not worth the hassle. Let the labels in New York City and Los Angeles deal with it.” So it looks like Chapel Hart are going to go the independent route. I sure do hope Chapel Hart makes it, and not change for the clueless label owners who wouldn’t know country music if it walked up and kicked them in the hiney.
November 15, 2023 @ 12:23 pm
I absolutely love Chapel Hart! I live in the Sacramento, CA area and they performed here a couple of months back. I was so disappointed that I found out after the show happened. How can I get on a email list if they come back to this area so I don’t miss out again. Keep performing and doing what you do. As far as I am concerned, you ladies are the real deal and are better than most country singers/bands out there today. Most new country artists all sound the same to me. Chapel Hart is a breath of fresh air and I love listening to all their songs. I hope I get the chance to see them live some day!
November 15, 2023 @ 12:37 pm
That one on the left could make it as a solo act. Daaaamn!
November 15, 2023 @ 2:20 pm
Indie manager here.
A few years ago, a national touring band with a record deal played a show in Maryland and only drew 30 people. An unsigned band later drew 1,300 in the same market. The unsigned band had chart history (on genre-specific chart, national but not Billboard). Record label called them to ask for advice on radio promotion for their own artists, but never offered the unsigned band a record deal. This site doesn’t cover them either.
You can have measurable statistics in your favor, and a strong fan following, and still not receive opportunities. You can achieve significant successes and then nothing happens. The playing field has not so much been levelled for independent artists; it has just changed in sometimes unpredictable ways.
November 15, 2023 @ 7:36 pm
I find this hard to believe. Unless it was a new indie label with clueless people working it. Labels know the game and how to play it. Sounds like someone fed you a line of shit. Lol.
November 15, 2023 @ 4:39 pm
I have tickets to see Chapel Heart in January at the Bartlett (Tennessee) Preforming Arts Center – and that show is sold out.
November 17, 2023 @ 7:54 am
If Chapel Hart looked like Yours Truly (i.e.,a handsome black cowboy sort at age 70),would it be easier for them to break through and get airplay and record sales ?
November 18, 2023 @ 1:53 am
These ladies have a great sound. They have personality and from what I have seen on YouTube they are great. I can’t understand why a recod label hasn’t come knocking. I’d pay to be entertained by them. I wish them all the best.
November 18, 2023 @ 8:36 am
So do I,linjen,and I fervently hope these ladies will soon be discovered by a major label which pushes them to deserved stardom.
November 20, 2023 @ 8:37 am
Remember too,linjen,that 2023 features a song which seems to OK, at the very least, mistrust of evil city folk (especially if they look like Chapel Hart or Yours Truly) the next time you wonder why Chapel hart has been avoided by Country labels.