Justin Townes Earle On What To Say to Someone Struggling w/ Drugs

Singer and songwriter Justin Townes Earle passed away early last week at the age of 38. The death of the accomplished performer and son of Steve Earle has left many in the roots music world reeling. Though we have no official confirmation on how Justin Townes Earle died at this point, and won’t for a while as the Medical Examiners Office continues to investigate the case, Metro Nashville police have preliminarily determined it was a probable drug overdose.
This potential prognosis makes a moment captured by photographer, videographer, and folklorist Dan Schram out of Greensboro, North Carolina that much more poignant, potent, and important to share.
On May 30th, 2018, Justin Townes Earle stopped in Raleigh, North Carolina to perform at Stag’s Head, with Lily Hiatt opening the show. Dan Schram has just released the entirety of the Justin Townes Earle concert in Raleigh that recorded with permission (see below). Not only is the concert itself worth seeing (and graciously cut up into segments by Schram), the moment when Earle is introducing his ode to Billie Holiday called “White Gardenias” makes for a moment everyone who is trying to reason with the death of Justin Townes Earle, or trying to reason with someone who may be struggling with addiction should hear.
In the context of addressing the greater opioid crisis, Justin Townes Earle said:
We’re never gonna solve this shit, but what we can do is do the best for those around us who we know who have a problem. And the best you can do for them—and I mean literally this sounds sad, like ‘Really, that’s the best you can do?’ But no, as somebody who shot heroin for 13 f–king years, and has been off it since I’ve been 22-years-old, I’m now 36. The best you can do for somebody who has a problem like that is to realize that for so long we’ve looked at them and said, ‘What’s wrong with you?’ And that’s a dumbass, ignorant, uneducated, insulting question to ask anybody. ‘What’s wrong with you?’ If you walk up to me and ask me, ‘Hey, what’s wrong with you?’ I’m probably gonna knock your f–king teeth down your throat.
So the best thing we can do for people that have these problems is realize that there’s nobody who wakes up in the morning, puts on their Quaker Oats, cranks up their radio to ‘Walking On Sunshine,’ then goes to the bathroom and f–king shoots up. Alright? So obviously, they hurt. So you ask them, ‘Why do you hurt?’ That’s it. I mean that’s the best we can do. Maybe you get to what is wrong after that. But you know, like think about it. They’re not doing because they’re happy shiny f—king people and because the world’s been good to them.
Billie Holiday is one of my favorite singers. My favorite singer. And I wrote this next song for her. And for selfish reasons I do wish somebody would’ve just looked at her and maybe said, ‘Why do you hurt?’ And maybe we just possibly we could’ve gotten something more out of Lady Day than we did.
Many people are now asking if we could have gotten something more from Justin Townes Earle. Often when someone passes away due to addiction, people question why friends and family didn’t do more to help save them. But these questions rarely come from people who’ve fought to bring an addict back from the brink themselves. They know that you can do everything in your power, and still lose. How to reach them and have them listen to you is often the hardest part.
Justin Townes Earle spoke openly and in detail about his own battles with addiction, both on the stage, in interviews, and through his music. We can’t bring Justin Townes Earle back. But we can all learn from the lessons he left us with.
(Justin speaks on addiction at the 54:52 mark)
August 31, 2020 @ 11:35 am
Broken record posted a crazy interview with him a few days ago. The man was a prophet.
September 1, 2020 @ 3:36 pm
https://brokenrecordpodcast.com/#/episode-57-justin-townes-earle-in-memoriam/
September 1, 2020 @ 5:09 pm
Yeah he says some things about dying…he’d rather die on the road….Tragic.
August 31, 2020 @ 12:45 pm
“Why do you hurt?” I like it. It’s better than any method I’ve ever heard or used. Being too harsh makes sufferers separate themselves from you. Being too kind enables their destructive behavior to continue. It’s hard from the outside looking in, but so much harder for the sufferer.
August 31, 2020 @ 1:22 pm
I saw him the day before at The Birchmere in Alexandria, VA. I remember him saying pretty much the same stuff. Will have to watch more of the show later.
September 2, 2020 @ 10:59 am
Saw him at The Sinclair in Cambridge a week before, and I recognized the “Why do you hurt” line as soon as I read it.
August 31, 2020 @ 1:51 pm
i think it is an important question to start with, but sometimes we don’t know why we hurt. that goes for us as people addict or not. there is too much focus on escape. from our jobs, our lives, our pain. if we learned how to live with it, accept that life can be suffering, but that does not have to lead us into 6 foot holes, maybe more of us could stick around.
i think maybe if he relapsed, he made the mistake many addicts do and picked up at the level and dose he used to do. but tolerance goes down with years clean. maybe more chinese gifts of overpowered fentanyl or carfentanyl being pumped out to destabilize our country and let us kill ourselves. either way, i am sad to see this happen to him or anyone. i hope his dad is going to be ok. we are not meant to outlive our children.
August 31, 2020 @ 2:48 pm
Let’s calm down with the “Chinese Gift” comments and be a little less ignorant. Fentanyl and its analogues come primarily from Mexico.
August 31, 2020 @ 3:16 pm
Ignorance is that everything that comes across the Mexican border originates in Mexico.
August 31, 2020 @ 3:38 pm
Jordan:
According to a January, 2020, report from the DEA, China remains the primary source of fentanyl that winds up in the USA.
August 31, 2020 @ 9:53 pm
This includes precursor chemicals (called “fentanyl related” in that report). The finished product that winds up in the US is produced in Mexico, whether fentanyl, an analogue, or a mix of one or more of those and heroin. Mexican Cartels are 20 years removed from simply being middlemen. My main point in responding to the initial post was…..let’s not blame another country for our problems. The opioid epidemic is not Mexico’s, China’s, or Afghanistan’s fault. We have the demand for the product. Blaming them is the same thing as blaming China for Covid-19; no, our administration dropped the ball on that one. Pointing the finger at another country is tantamount to making excuses for us, as a country, being inadequate.
September 1, 2020 @ 6:29 am
Hear hear. Past time to get past all these otherisms and onto one planet before its too late for all of us.
September 1, 2020 @ 8:07 am
“Blaming them is the same thing as blaming China for Covid-19; no, our administration dropped the ball on that one.”
Time to grow up.
August 31, 2020 @ 1:56 pm
Crying all over again, Trig. Heartbreaking to know he died alone, too 💔
His advice is solid “Why do you hurt?” Is one of the most beautiful, profound and loving things we can say to our addicts … and others in our lives. Then we need to listen ….
September 1, 2020 @ 5:12 am
I just wish people going through these things could have a tiny bit of knowledge just knowing that the people they love will never ever have a full heart again. It will always be broken , for the ready of there lives 😢💔. Always wondering what they could have done , wondering if it’s there fault , this very talented young mans and father of a beautiful 3 year old little girls daddy is gone and she will not have him teach her guitar , watch her sing her first song😢 see her going to kindergarten 😢 and see his beautiful wife trying to tell there daughtet why Daddy isn’t here any longer 💔💔💔.
September 1, 2020 @ 12:36 pm
Pam, I suspect their pain and suffering is just too great to comtemplate such things. Often they think the world and the people around them would “be better off without them” 😔
My brother committed suicide a a year and a half ago. Nobody knew he was suicidal, he didn’t leave a note. He was 42. My parents are understandably devastated.
We still don’t know exactly why (the Coroner’s report is still some years away) but we know he was very upset and triggered by the Christchurch Mosque Shootings in my country, where 51 of our kiwi Muslim brothers and sisters died, at the hands of an Australian white supremacist.
It seems he went into paranoia about a race war breaking out, when went into a psychotic episode which resulted in him taking his own life.
We don’t blame him, and I don’t think we can lay the blame at the feet of our addicts who deliberately or accidently leave us due to their addictions. It is a disease and sometimes it overwhelms them and there is just no coming back from the pain and suffering they are experiencing.
Aroha (love) and blessings to everyone out there 💖
September 2, 2020 @ 8:01 am
Thanks for sharing your experience and hard-won insight. I’m very sorry for your loss.
September 2, 2020 @ 2:59 pm
Thanks Matt F, I appreciate your kindness. I’m just happy we are talking about this stuff, in a forum such as this. It’s important that people (especially men) know it’s okay to talk about mental health issues. I think the more conversation we can stimulate around this stuff, the easier it becomes for people to reach out and say “I’m not okay. I need help”.
August 31, 2020 @ 4:59 pm
I love it.
Also had some success with just simply asking
“Are you done yet? ”
Repeat
August 31, 2020 @ 8:50 pm
What’s the deal with Steve Earle?
I Googled Steve Earle and checked his website. There’s nothing. Only thing I saw was a photo on Twitter showing a grown up Justin lying on his back, shirtless over Steve’s lap.
I was expecting to see some statement about Justin and his death.
August 31, 2020 @ 9:26 pm
What’s up with him? He lost his son. There is nothing else to know.
August 31, 2020 @ 9:30 pm
Steve Earle performing on a live stream this weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FbkfMQ5rrs&t=176
September 1, 2020 @ 4:51 pm
Pretty sure that was pre-recorded the week before.
August 31, 2020 @ 10:12 pm
Steve personally does not do social media, and his management has never been good at updating his site. JTE’s site does not say anything either, for that matter.
Also. what do you want him to say? He and the family are grieving, and people do that in different ways. I saw a post by a family member that said Steve is staying quiet and trying to process. I think the photo of him laughing with Justin was poignant, and a way to remember that there were times of joy as well as pain.
They both had demons, but not all of Justin’s can be placed on Steve. JTE said recently “It goes way deeper than my father. I was a kid. I was abandoned. I was molested. I was beaten. You know, so, everybody’s lucky I’m not a serial killer. “
September 1, 2020 @ 4:59 am
Steve Earle’s Hardcore Troubadour Radio show this week was tribute to Justin. He talked about it and played JTE songs for an hour.
September 1, 2020 @ 10:17 am
Correction: the few Steve messages on the show were prerecorded and very minimal.
September 2, 2020 @ 6:39 am
This video was post-JTE’s death. He only mentions him very briefly at the end, and it’s weird that he seems completely normal only a couple days after.
https://youtu.be/oa8zJWVpm-0
I’ve never lost a child, but I’m sure the emotions behind it are pretty crazy and unexplainable
September 1, 2020 @ 6:31 am
Excellent article, Trigger, as usual- my two cents: There is too much public information about the results to too many people to ignore it- nobody held a gun to their head to make them take that first whatever. Sure, its sad and it hurts- those left behind. But, that too is life. Reminds me of Go Rest High On That Mountain opening line; I know your life on earth was troubled and only you can feel the pain- that’s true, but, others have felt a pain and dealt with it and many others have died from it- there’s no such thing as Ten Feet Tall and Bullet Proof- it seems the musicians get all the print and ordinary folks get nothing except dead- that too is sad and speaks to our need/desire to somehow justify/glorify a weakness by those who are creative, and yes that’s what it is- a chemical imbalance creates a weakness and more chemicals won’t cure it- nor will grieving. It’s a harsh world and life isn’t meant to be easy, and by god! people prove it everyday- wish I could see the angels faces, when they hear your sweet voice sing-
September 1, 2020 @ 7:06 am
I too am an addict. I have hurt for so long inside. And Don’t know why. I want to stop. And DON’T know how to stop. So asking why you hurt doesn’t always have an easy answer. Because I don’t know why I hurt. But stopping is NOT as easy as one would think. I cry all the time because I can’t stop. Because GOD knows this is NOT where I wanted to be at almost 50 years old. We don’t choose to be addicted. It is something we use as a coping mechanism. Trust me. We ALL WANT TO STOP. AND BE WHO WE ONCE WERE. If it were only that easy. GOD PLEASE SAVE US ALL. Addicts or Not.
September 1, 2020 @ 12:42 pm
Gerald, just wanted to send you some love and support. Thank you for being so open and honest, it is a disease nobody would choose. Do you have a good support network around you? Carla x
September 1, 2020 @ 5:25 pm
Hey Gerald,
Sending support to you. We all deal with things differently. Who are we to judge you. I believe that there are people who think about you and there are people that can help.
I hope you find that.
September 1, 2020 @ 7:54 am
The only people I ever met that could not step away from the nasty stuff seemed to literally be wrestling with a demon. That is to say they opened a door to oppression and having opened the door on to possession.
James 1: 13-15
September 1, 2020 @ 8:57 am
Trigger has, once again, apparently reverted to going into a state of apoplexy rendering him unable to hit the “post” button for any entries that, apparently, aren’t pre-approved by the left-wing idiots who have turned Austin into the laughingstock of Texas. So sad for someone to be so “cowed-down,” as we say in the Lone Star State.
September 1, 2020 @ 9:04 am
We’re not turning a story about a guy who just died into a political forum.
September 1, 2020 @ 6:57 pm
Sheesh, there’s always a Centimeter Peter making everything about politics
September 1, 2020 @ 9:28 am
You’ve only got one job, just one simple job to do on this earth. And that is to raise your kids right. Set boundaries and maintain those boundaries, talk to them all the time, and love them no matter what.
What To Say to Someone Struggling w/ Drugs (in my best Norm Macdonald voice):
‘Hey, you there–drug struggler! You should give me some of those drugs you’re struggling with so you won’t be struggling with those drugs so much, you crazy drug struggler you!’
September 1, 2020 @ 4:47 pm
You’ve only got one job, just one simple job to do on this earth. And that is to raise your kids right. Set boundaries and maintain those boundaries, talk to them all the time, and love them no matter what.
September 1, 2020 @ 5:22 pm
I thought the same thing. I mean we all grieve differently. But I haven’t much from him as a father paying his respects to his son but maybe that’s his way of dealing with it. It does seem a little odd but who am I to judge.
That said, it seems like JTE couldn’t shake things from his childhood – Mr. Earle wasn’t around much or at all. Might hard for one to understand why their father doesn’t want to be a part of their lives. Definitely feel for JTE and his family. Tough times. Bless.
September 1, 2020 @ 6:52 pm
Is he saying he used heroin from age 9 to 22?
September 1, 2020 @ 6:56 pm
Heroin overloads the pleasure/reward center of the brain and fries it to a crisp.
Afterwards, no natural levels of dopamine will ever be able to compete with heroin. You’re done: you burned the dopamine breaker in your brain, and the only replacement is more heroin unless you find some incredible strength and way to get out of its grip.
It’s hard to know what to say to Justin once his basal ganglia has been fried. I suppose I’d say something like, “You’re more of a badass for living without it.” Saying something is always weak sauce compared to doing something, though. He needed friends, happy experiences, and better things to do. Anything to reach an acceptable dopamine level without the smack.
I watched a neighbor die of cirrhosis of the liver. He actually turned yellow, and you could smell the acetone from his skin outside and six feet away. He was totally lucid, still the same nice guy he always was, but he was possessed and never got away. His wife followed him shortly thereafter. Their house was sold to a young couple who never knew them.