Fake Outlaw Josh Thompson Evokes Waylon’s Name

February 23rd, 2010

I told you. Once Music Row figured out there is a HUGE group of disgruntled REAL country music fans out there with money to spend, they were going to start manufacturing their own “Outlaws,” fresh faced and focused grouped, ready to maximize their profits with fashion plate country. Well ladies and gentleman, I give you Columbia Nashville/Sony recording artist Josh Thompson, Nashville’s answer to the appetite for REAL country.

This is how they do it: The first thing you need is a bunch of glamor shots, and since the target demographic is red meat “Outlaws” let’s take them in hotel rooms and construction sites. I mean really? Hell, let’s even get him out to Hank’s grave. I mean isn’t that what all those ugly, foul-mouthed, stupid rednecks like, is people who show respect to Hank, right?

But then when it boils down to the actual music, it is the same formulaic frat boy country bullshit. Give it a listen and tell me I’m wrong. Here’s Josh Thompson with his, um, partner:

Two hours with a hair stylist: $400.

Matching designer shirts: $250

8 ball from a black guy in the parking lot that was really talcum powder and baking soda: $80.

Same damn song every other pop country manufactured star plays: WORTHLESS.

But maybe you’re thinking that this is just his radio single, and his others songs might be more “Outlaw.” Think again. Here’s another with that same damn pop country cadence, and I warn you, 0:15 might be the most douche-riddled moment I have ever seen from anyone claiming to be “country,” and it might result in you trying to clean your half-digested lunch out of the hard-to-reach nooks and crannies of your computer’s keyboard.

“Ladies, this is for you especially . . .”. Did he really say that? REALLY?

But this is where this guy brought my piss to a boil, a song he calls Blame It On Waylon.

Piped over a video that shows high school-esque overindulgence of alcohol, nookie girls, and some homo-erotic ass slapping scene at 2:10, this guy is giving tribute to Waylon Jennings for his “honky tonk ways.” I will tell you straight up, this song insults me more than if someone had told me to go suck my mother’s dick.

Listen Josh Thompson–that’s right, I’m talking directly to YOU. Waylon Waymore Watashin Jennings was a true Outlaw. He wasn’t an Outlaw because he wore his baseball cap backwards when he got sloshed and hit on peroxide blond coeds, he was an Outlaw because he looked the Nashville establishment in the face and said “I’m the hoss. We do it my way or no way.”

In fact Waylon wasn’t much of a drinker. Instead he did cocaine. A lot of cocaine. Until he became dis-attached from the whole world, going from bus to stage, and back to bus, never hanging out with anyone, never granting interviews. He could only relate to the world through his music, and even his best friends felt like strangers. Luckily he broke free of all of that one day in Arizona, but he had to come to within an inch of his life to do so, and even then, his lifestyle caught up with him in an early death.

Waylon Jennings died for your sins Josh, and all of the sins of country music. And until you can understand what a TRUE Outlaw is, and especially if you’re just going to use it as some marketing term, I wish you’d keep the name Waylon Jennings out of your damn mouth.

You see Josh, I have no doubt that you’re a fan of Waylon, or Hank Williams, or whoever. But your story and their story are not the same. Josh Thompson isn’t even a person now, it is a franchise. You are more machine than man now, tooled to optimize album sales, your soul replaced by an autotuner, your spirit swapped for a tape recorder, your life path switched for a marketing strategy. Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Bobby Bare, Tompall Glaser, and David Alan Coe were Outlaws because they resisted the very thing you’re embracing, and no amount of drinking or tattoos or bawdy talk will make up for that.

Josh, if you want to become a TRUE Outlaw, and if your music is any good, then I will embrace you as an artist. Willie and Waylon started inside the system too. But until then, you are my enemy, a sworn enemy, even worse than Taylor Swift, and I’m going to be on your ass like stink on shit. Because Music Row has already stolen the word “country” from the people, and I’ll be damned if we’ll let the same thing happen to “Outlaw,” and ESPECIALLY to the sainted name of one Waylon Jennings.

I will be your shadow Josh, the voice of your conscience, at least until you change your ways, start calling yourself pop country instead of outlaw country, or until you decide to 86 the whole charade for a more honest living.

Welcome to country music.

–The Triggerman.

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92 Responses to “Fake Outlaw Josh Thompson Evokes Waylon’s Name”

  1. wylde bill Says:

    Git him Triggerman!!! Hey lets all talk about what makes us country instead of actually living it. Butter up mu biscuits what the fuck!!! Music Row actually has a real country nusician on the roster, well he’s jumpin ship now that the contract is finally up, but I caint fathom why they wouldn’t shove that down our throats. Hell we could all go to bed full.

  2. JahshieP Says:

    Amen, well said. Never heard this guy but he is awful. Thanks fort he article! I love the rants!

  3. Serialkiller Says:

    Goddamnit, now my fuckin’ ears are bleeading.

  4. Ernie Says:

    I decided to go listen to your Joe Buck interview again instead of wasting time I can never get back on those vids

  5. Colonel Robert Morris Says:

    Bow Chica Wow Wow? WTF!!!!
    I’ve notice that the young ladies go for this same kind of beat that the “new” country is putting out. Almost every one of the female fans of these clowns state that RAP is one of their favorite styles of music. Most don’t even list country.

    I’ll just keep on writing and recording this good ol outlaw country music!

  6. Ian Says:

    All my thoughts about this guy were finally put to words. Thank you Triggerman.

  7. Denise Says:

    Well golly gee,Josh, you mean if I buy yer album you’re gonna come pick me up in yer pick up truck?

    Coattails, buddy, coattails. I suspect he doesn’t have the first clue about it.

  8. The Triggerman Says:

    Hehe Denise. I was wondering how you ladies felt about this self proclaimed God’s gift to women.

  9. Martin Luther Presley Says:

    Preach it, brother!

  10. Chaney Says:

    That is absolutely awful!!! He hasn’t seen country either! Where do these people get off thinking that they proclaim him an “outlaw” and we will just buy the CD. Is he trying to evoke a little Hank III by standing by the car dressed in black on the CD cover?

  11. cornstalker Says:

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuck

  12. Cody Mccoy Says:

    Why havent you done this with jamey johnson he was is the face of this fucking shit…yea hes an alright songwritter but hes driving the MANUFACTURED OUTLAW band wagon…Fuck Theses mother fuckers man…

  13. MR.BANDANA Says:

    THANKS TRIGGERMAN FOR EXPOSING THIS POP COUNTRY PIECE OF SHIT JOSH THOMPSON..ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS HOW MUCH I LOVE WAYLON..I WEAR 3 DIFFERENT NECKLACE PIECES OF WAYLON AND KISS ONE OF THEM EACH TIME HIS NAME IS MENTIONED..HE IS MY TOP MUSICIAN,SINGER,PERFORMER OVER HANK SR.AND HANK III TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE AND I LOVE ME SOME HANK..
    I DARE JOSH TO TAKE WAYLON JENNINGS NAME IN VAIN..IT NOT ONLY MAKES MY PISS BOIL,MY EARS BLEED JUST LISTENING TO 3 VIDEOS THAT HAVE TAKEN 8 MINUTES 55 SECONDS OF MY LIFE I WILL NEVER GET BACK..IT HAS RUN MY BLOOD PRESSURE TO STROKE LEVEL THAT A PISSY LITTLE PUNK ASS PRICK IS USING WAYLON TO BOOST HIS CAREER IN THE POP COUNTRY BULLSHIT THAT NASHVILLE KEEPS BREEDING..
    JOSH NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PRISON AS SOME BIG BLACK MANS BITCH AND HAVE THE SHIT FUCKED OUT OF HIM DAILY FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE WITH MY HOPES HE LIVES A LONG ONE..I HAVE TO STOP..

  14. The Triggerman Says:

    Hey Cody,

    I understand what you’re saying, and Nashville is certainly using the “Outlaw” angle with Jamey Johnson. But to me, the music of Josh and Jamey is much different. I’m not saying that I like Jamey, and yes I know he wrote the Bodonka Donk song, but Jamey’s own music is a lot more what I would consider “mainstream” country, while Josh is clearly pop. And I don’t think Jamey is being nearly as vocal about being an “Outlaw” as Jamey is. In Jamey’s case, that’s Nashville speaking for him. Josh is speaking for himself, and needs to be put in his place.

    If we flamethrow every popular country star equally, it takes away our credibility when a prick like this comes along. You can’t cry wolf too many times.

    Personally, my jury is still out on whether Jamey is a bad guy, good guy, or somewhere in between. But with Josh Thompson it is clear.

  15. OkieWolf Says:

    I couldn’t agree with you more Triggerman. And Mr. Bandana, I totally agree with you too, and completely understand. I feel the very same way about Waylon. It’s sickening to here one of these pop jackasses even say the name Waylon Jennings and I damn sure don’t want to here them say it in a song of theirs.
    Nashville has become a ridiculous shadow of what it once was. It’s damn strange that the very people they once hated so badly for being “outlaws” are the very ones that MADE true country music and are now the very ones that they try to emulate. But what these assholes don’t realize (Nashville and the “artists”) is that people can see right through their smoke and mirrors. It’s like I’ve said before, you either ARE country or you’re not. If you’re truly country, that will show through and if you’re not, that will show through too, with an even greater blinding light.
    One of my songs says “We’re coming for you and there’s no place you can hide. You done pissed off true country, and you won’t escape this time”. Be ready Nashville, your days are numbered!!

  16. OkieWolf Says:

    Ok, I just watch about 20 seconds of “Blame it on Waylon” and I almost had a fuckin’ seisure!! I couldn’t watch any more than that…..and that was too damn much!!

  17. Nlindsay Says:

    That was without a doubt the funniest thing I’ve seen this week (the promo vid for “You Ain’t Seen Country Yet”).

  18. Nlindsay Says:

    Yall REALLY wanna get fired up over this dude?

    http://blog.cmt.com/2010-02-22/josh-thompsons-road-from-the-labor-union/

  19. The Triggerman Says:

    Alison Bonaguro who wrote that blog is the biggest pom pom waver for pop country there ever was. The only thing that surprises me about that article is that it is not about Taylor Swift, who she writes about incessantly.

    So he had a shitty job when he was 19. Who didn’t? Actually I take that back, a union job is pretty cushy to what I was doing at 19. When I was 19, I was working concrete for half the money and no bennies compared to union workers.

  20. The Triggerman Says:

    Okie Wolf,

    You’re right, you can see right through these guys, but unfortunately most people aren’t paying enough attention to do that. If they see them on CMT, then that means they’re country.

  21. Walt The TERROR Says:

    WTF is this guy doing? WHo in the Hell does he think he is? OUTLAW, how about FAKE or asshole! I am not quiet as pissed as BANDANA but when he uses the HILLBILLY SHAKESPEARE’s name in vein I may have to make a road trip

  22. Nlindsay Says:

    I think the part that irritates me most about pop-country, really most pop music in general is how goddamn self-righteous it is.

  23. wayne Says:

    I’m with Cody McCoy… I rember Jamie Johnson tryin’ to be pop country cool and laughed out of town… He went home bought a Harley, grew a beard, and said now i’m a outlaw… WTF…

  24. The Triggerman Says:

    Wayne, Cody:

    http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/jamey-johnson-is-pop-countrys-black-friend

    http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/jamey-johnson-real-deal-or-patsy

  25. Nate Says:

    Yep, that’s what happens when there’s an audience and money to be made.
    May the Outlaws rise again!

  26. Burch Says:

    Holy shit that was awful. I think it begs for a parody song called “Blame It On Nashville.”

  27. Carla Says:

    Bow Chicka Wow Wow? Awesome, it’s the ‘Achy Breaky Heart’ for a new generation! I have but one question: Is Josh the fat one or the sensitive new age one with the ponytail?

  28. The Triggerman Says:

    Does it really matter Carla? The dimples on the heafty one drew you in, didn’t they?

  29. OkieWolf Says:

    I don’t know either Carla, but I do know that either one causes vomit to well up in my throat.

    And Burch, I’ll see what I can work up on “Blame It On Nashville”!! I think that’s an AWESOME idea!! I’ll let you know when it’s done and where you can go listen.

  30. Hall Honorees Comment On Induction; Josh Thompson’s Polarizing Reception; Sarah Buxton Performs New Album Acoustically | The 9513 Says:

    [...] people. Ken Tucker praises the album for NPR Music, while the blogger at Saving Country Music is less than thrilled with the results, labeling Thompson a “fake outlaw.” Writing for The Associated Press, [...]

  31. Trailer Says:

    You knocked that one out of the park! Well said!

  32. Carla Says:

    Ahhhh, I never even noticed the dimples til you mentioned that. Had to go back and replay it - it DOES sound like Achy Breaky Heart dude! And yes, those dimples are fetching.

  33. Ian Says:

    http://www.the9513.com/hall-honorees-comment-on-induction-josh-thompsons-polarizing-reception-sarah-buxton-performs-new-album-acoustically/

    You made the9513.com. More pop country bullshit.

  34. dirtbag Says:

    Damn you Nlindsay. I’ve discovered the CMT blog because of you. Now I’ve got a few hours of enraged reading and berating morons invested in it.

  35. heinrich Says:

    THIS SHIT MAKES ME FUCKIN’ ANGRY!!!

  36. Big G Says:

    Sweet! Just saw this linked on The 9513 - keep hammerin’, hoss!

  37. Rick Says:

    I’m am disgusted by this shit.. How dare he even call himself a fuckin outlaw?? How dare Nashville call him a fuckin’ outlaw… How dare he even call himself “Country” I don’t give a fuck if he’s had some hardship’s.. Havin’ a Union paid job at the age of 19 is goddamn lucky not to mention cushy like Triggerman said.. I’m 17 year’s old and i’m a ranch hand and break my back just to make that extra dollar so that i got some fuckin’ clothes to wear and to pay my own way and he had it easier than i did for growin up as a young man in this big world and hell yeah i party hard after a long day’s work and i’m not kiddin when i say long day’s work i pull 13 hour shifts workin’ my ass off sweatin in that summers sun and freezing my ass off in that winter’s cold i’m more goddamn country than he is and not to mention i’m more of an outlaw than that guy will ever be.. Fuck the goverment, Fuck the rules, Fuck people like Josh Thompson and Fuck the Grand Ole Opry and Fuck Music Row for destroying something that i love so much. R.I.P Waylon “Hoss” Jennings R.I.P Hank Williams Sr. R.I.P Johnny Cash and may the rest of the outlaws live forever!

  38. AJ Says:

    His music sounds like like the Trashville music execs hung a dick on a bad impression of Gretchin Wilson…Can I Hear A “Fuck Yeah”?.

  39. heinrich Says:

    and i still hate it… *lol*

  40. David Lee Says:

    Josh if see see you I’m fuckin killin’ you with a rusty knife!

  41. drifter379 Says:

    Dont yall think this outlaw shit done got out of hand?

  42. Li Says:

    Ya know you people might wanna see this guy before you shread him to death….. and he never claimed to be an outlaw.. you all need to listen to the WORDS of the songs again Geezzzzz

  43. Kate Says:

    Wow. Really everyone? Are you serious? If you don’t like the man, stop wasting your time and trashing him. Obviously y’all have nothing better to do in your life than find people, that are obviously much better than you, to put down. Pop country? Seriously? Rascal Flatts is pop country. Taylor Swift is pop country. You can not compare Josh with them, not even close!! Obviously you guys have some issues and don’t realize that music is changing, in every genre, not just country. Pop has changed styles over the years just as much as Rap and Country. Sure, Josh isn’t Waylon or Haggard, but he puts on one hell of a show just like them and attracts crowds just as well. Y’all need to get a life and stop trashing someone who you obviously don’t understand. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of Jennings and Haggard and all of the legends of country music, but music changes over the years! Y’all are taking this wayyyy out of proportion and need to realize that, or you’ll have trouble in the years to come. If you think you know so much about country music, show me your record deal.

  44. K Says:

    ok 1st of all josh never claimed to be an outlaw like waylon at all and if he had the term outlaw these days means doing music differently then the country acts today… by not winning a singing contest or directing things to teenage girls or this mass market crap.. honestly i think what u said about josh is totall shit! hes a kick ass artist who hmm lets see is apparently doing something right cuz he is on the jager tour and prolly making more money then ur stupid ass. i read this blog and was disgusted that a country music fan is this hateful to an artist!!!! this man is writing about his life and what hes been thru country music is changing and the fans are changing with it..if u cant accept that then keep ur mouth shut! Oh and whoever commented on girls who like this “pop country” they have rap listed first u obvisously dont kno what ur talking about i love country and dont listen to rap so shut up! i think this all boils down to u guys r jealous cuz hes an awesome guy who is making music and gettin more girls then u could ever imagine! with that said take this blog and shove it up ur ass!

  45. Kate Says:

    David Lee-
    Really now? You have to go that extent?? You obviously have major issues. That wasn’t needed at all.

  46. cj Says:

    i think you all need to worry about yal’s own messed up lives before you go bashing someone else’s! honestly, is it really important that you created this whole rant? no! does anyone care what you have to say? no! so quit being an attention whore and get a much needed life!

  47. lauren m Says:

    look I know Josh and I am very upset that you would trash someome like that! Josh is who he is! if you wanna trash some one for not being counrty enough try Rascal Flatts or T Swizzle like Kate said! seriously dis the ones that deserve it not those who don’t!

  48. Patti Says:

    Wow wow wow…..narrow minded. Goodness….First I’d love to see anyone of you get up on a stage and peform. I give props to just about *any* artist whether I like them or not - for being able to do that.

    I am shocked at the guy who said he’d kill Josh. Actually - I do believe that *could* be viewed as a threat…rude and mean. Just because you don’t like his music? WTH? YOU scare me.

    There is so much music out there, for everyone. Pop, rock, metal, Jazz, blues, Country, new country, classical…..because people have different tastes. You don’t like it …. don’t listen. You don’t need to make personal attacks.

    But I will say this, I’m not a peroxide blond 20something girl, I’m a 40something mother & wife. I find Josh’s music *FUN*. That’s what *I* want from my music. I don’t care how he lives his life, I don’t care if he’s an outlaw….just make music i like that’s all that matters. Quite honestly I don’t “GET” Waylon or Haggard….but I grew up on Rock and Metal. I’m not TRASH talking W or H.

    As far as I’m concerned Josh is a talented up and comer. And Having met him earlier in the year, he is a very nice person who truely appreciates his fans. You don’t have to like him, but you don’t have to trash him either.

  49. Stone Says:

    See the guy live, then post your opinion. Listen to his cd. And for you David Lee, they have medicine and psychiatrists for people like you. You have maaaajor issues.

  50. LA Says:

    If yall don’t actually know theses men (i.e. Josh Jamey Randy Dallas Jerrod…other members of the traler park..and some of the most honest men in nashville) then I suggest you keep your mouth shut. I’d put money any of em could kick your ass drink you under the table write a hit song and then do it all over again.

  51. The Triggerman Says:

    Josh Thompson fans,

    I appreciate you coming here to support your artist, but bring some substance with it. I’ve heard Josh’s music, all of it. And saying he can kick my ass or that I can’t talk because I don’t know him on a personal level is childish. I’m a music critic; I’m criticizing the music and the marketing scheme around it. None of the people I write about, good or bad, do I know personally, which is how I can do it with integrity.

    And don’t use one reader’s comment to try to trash the whole article.

  52. Kate Says:

    We aren’t using one reader’s comment to trash the whole article. We are saying that it wasn’t needed to threaten Josh’s life just because he doesn’t like his music. How would that solve anything?
    I don’t know Josh on a personal level, I’ve only met him, making it an acquaintance. I’m trying to get you to understand that music changes over the year and the country genre has taken the top spot when it comes to genres, so these new artists MUST be doing something right ya think? Josh wasn’t trying to offend any Waylon fans in his song “Blame It On Waylon”, he was saying that Waylon is an influence on his way of life. He didn’t say anything about trying to copy Waylon’s musical rhythm or music in general. He’s obviously a fan of the legends and they have influenced him and the way he writes his music. He’s attracting more and more fans from genres to the country music scene, and just because it isn’t EXACTLY like Waylon or Haggard doesn’t mean it’s not good country music.
    Like I’ve said, he’s nowhere near pop and I don’t understand how you can even compare him to it.

  53. Judy Says:

    So Triggerman - question for you - doesn’t the fact that Waylon, Hag, David Allen Coe, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash and whatever other names you tack on all had contracts with record labels put them in the same category as say Josh Thompson or Eric Church or whoever else you claim is violating some unwritten code that you created?

    It is an industry. The argument you make is similar to the one indie rock fans make - when you make money off of music you are a sell out. Isn’t that sort of the point?

    I don’t see exactly how the “Outlaws” resisted the industry? They all had talent that they took to a label, got a contract, made music, sold albums, went on tour, and have been able to enjoy the riches of their music. Now, the pitfalls of fame, i.e. the drug usage of all the above stated names is the same for Cash, Waylon and I don’t know, Brittney Spears maybe? It is a societal issue.

    So….you have totally lost me on your argument. I think that if Josh were a suburban yuppie from middle America and he had been the football star with a scholarship to some fancy college, had never listened to anything remotely called country music and then was put together in a nice little package by the label marketing department - then I could buy into your ‘fraud’ argument. But that isn’t the case…

    Now if he were created at the Disney Factory where tons of TweenBots are manufactured on a daily basis, I would completely agree with you.

    Now, it seems you are upset that he is using Waylon’s name in this song. You clearly do not like the video. I think we can all agree that when one goes down the path of being a country artist - there are pros and there are cons. There are things an artist has to do because the label says it is so….There is a fine line that the artist has to walk to remain true to their self. No different than Johnny Cash wanting to make gospel music and his first label saying no. It doesn’t sell. So was Johnny Cash a fraud too?

    Was it a money decision from the label to have Johnny do a cover of Hurt? You know, by Nine Inch Nails…..maybe it would attract a new younger demographic? I don’t know.

    I know more about Hag and Cash because I have researched them quite a bit. I can’t really address Waylon because I haven’t read his autobiography yet, though it is sitting next to me now.

    But, wait - he wrote an autobiography….and mass published it…and made lots of money? hmm.

    I look forward to your comments Mr. Triggerman! Help me out, you are the music critic.

    Judy

  54. LA Says:

    A persons own music is on a personal level. Criticizing music is one thing, but calling him a fake prick is another.

  55. Judy Says:

    Oh - one last comment…Waylon was an outlaw because he told the Nashville establishment that he was the Hoss and it was his way; yes similar to Hag’s views on the Grand Ole Opry and Music Row etc. But….those views are thrown out there in a ‘fuck you’ type of attitude after many, many, many years of playing the game.

    Had Hag not ‘played the game’ he would have never become “Hag”. Johnny Cash played the game…he didn’t get to do what he wanted until he had enough ‘fame’ to say ‘fuck you’.

    So sadly, had the Outlaws not played the game….we would never have known who they were. And we would have missed out on some serious talent.

    Judy

  56. Patti Says:

    Bring substance with it?

    Saying “Waylon died for you Sins Josh” that’s being a Critic?

    Anyway, my point was and still is….Josh’s music makes *ME* feel good….and from I’ve seen of him in concert - he makes alot of other people feel good. As for saying I “know him”…I don’t know him….I met him. He was kind, courteous, friendly and warm. Not saying I know him….just he knows HOW to treat fans. That’s a plus imo.

    Music evolves and changes constantly. There never will be another Waylon, Hank, Hag,Cash,Elvis or Beatles….ever ever. That should be a good thing. Right? Same arguements always follow be it country or rock and even the hip hop genre.

    But these “old time” artists have influenced many up and coming artists. They may not *live* exactly like Waylon, Hank, etc did….but that doesn’t mean his music isn’t pumping thru their veins. I think it’s fantastic that in some way they keep the older artists alive….and *maybe* just *maybe* will bring new fans to the older artists. Just a thought.

    I don’t think that you truely can be writing this article without bias….because tho you don’t know Josh to flavor your opinion….you are completely bias towards what *YOU* deem outlaw music. And if someone isn’t up to the standard that “OUTLAW” fans have set….they are no good. Oops just a bit to pop….no good.

    Josh and his fellow up and comers may not be exactly “outlaw” music to you..but it doesn’t mean they are no good. For the most part I don’t believe Josh CLAIMS to be outlaw *shrug*…Blame it on Waylon isn’t him saying “I’m an outlaw” but rather “blame this love of music on Waylon and all them other outlaws.

    And quite honestly I don’t think any of the “outlaws” would have made it in todays industry…it’s become too much of a powerhouse that will just crush the guys who don’t follow suit. So sometimes they have to bend a little to have the career they love. No-one here has ever had to do that?

  57. Frieda Says:

    Well , he is just a good Songwriter and good singer ..He just let us how how he feel and what is on his mind …If his Fans like it than it’s fine .The show must go on and Josh rock the country ..His Music bring me smile on my Face .

  58. William cowdery Says:

    Dear Triggerman,
    Who are you to judge country music? Have you ever written a song? I bet your one of those guys that sits in his parents basement all day bashing on good looking country singers. Josh Thompson, he is a hard working mother fucker. He traded in his truck to buy a van and go on tour, what part of that makes him a pretty boy? The song says “I blame it on Waylon” not that He is Waylon. Furthermore does anyone have it documented where Josh Thompson said he was Gods gift to women? If you want to bash on someone that’s fake go ahead, but Josh Thompson is as real as it gets.
    William Cowdery

  59. Stubblejumper Says:

    Patti, you summed up the point of the article succinctly. “Sometimes they have to bend a little to have the career they love…” and he name drops Waylon Jennings, the man who’s legacy is his lack of bending what-so-ever?

    The problem with country music changing, is it was traditional music, and this “change” has stripped it of that. You’re right, there won’t ever be a Hank or a Cash again, and we can’t hear clones. But we should be hearing echos, and we’re not. This is maybe a bit of an overstatement (though not to some on here, I’d imagine), but liken his name dropping Waylon to someobody talking about how much they love Jesus while defiling a church.

  60. j.r. Says:

    Triggerman:
    You seriously need to pull your head up out your ass and listen to the music.
    Ok, sense you have the common sense of someone in a mental ward, let me summarize Josh Thompson’s music:
    Beer on the table: This is a song that characterizes what the average american blue collar worker does week in and week out
    Blame it on Waylon: He is basically saying that things in his life can be contributed to waylon’s music, not waylon himself you egotistical ass.
    Sinner: This is a song that talks about what it’s like to stumble and have the good lord and saviour there to pick you up when you fall.
    Won’t Be Lonely Long: talks about a guy who escapes from his heartache by hanging out with his friends at the bar.
    Way Out Here: talks about country people and what they value.

    As you see, I’ve brought the facts to back up my argument you ignorant piece of trash. Just because you can’t see the meaning behind the music, doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Why don’t you try to actually listen to the lyrics rather than having your head crammed so far up your ass that your talkin s**t? Honestly, your a music critic? God help the music industry.

  61. j.r. Says:

    And as an addenudum to you others who think josh thompson is “fake” or whatever other tag you want to put on him need to seriously listen to his music. His music can speak to you if you really listen to the words. Josh’s music is heartfelt and deep and is liked by alot of people. I mean he is on the “Jaeger Tour” with Eric Church for crying out loud. So all you narrowminded egotists who think out your A$$ NEED TO SHUT THE HELL UP!

  62. The Triggerman Says:

    JR,

    Thanks for the insults. You’re really helping your cause.

  63. The Triggerman Says:

    William Cowdery,

    Yes, I have written songs. They may be better than Josh’s, they may be worse. But I’m not putting them out there on a major label for people to judge. If Josh is tough and/or smart, he will deal with the criticism I and others give him in a constructive manner. That is what it is there for. There is a fight going on right now for the heart of country music, and I represent one viewpoint. Conflict breeds resolution, and resolution breeds progress.

    And no, I don’t live in my parents basement. I am a professional writer and take this very seriously.

  64. The Triggerman Says:

    Patti,

    If Josh’s music makes you feel good, then roll with it! Don’t let my or anyone elses opinion stand in your way. But I will tell you, there is country music out there that could make you feel even better, that is done with more soul and originality. But you and millions more will never hear it, because major label products like Josh Thompson have pushed them into the underground.

    And I agree, the Outlaws would not make it today. But it’s not because of evolution, its because of commercialization.

  65. The Triggerman Says:

    Judy,

    All the Outlaws used major labels, before and after becoming Outlaws. The difference is that when they because Outlaws, they had complete creative control of the music, something that modern Nashville labels won’t allow.

    I also alluded to this in the article:

    “Willie and Waylon started inside the system too.”

    The bigger evil over what Josh is doing, is the major label that is controlling all the media hitting the mass market’s eyes. Watch his “Blame it on Waylon” video. If you ask me, it is insulting to women, and glorifies excessive drinking, while the Outlaws sang about the trials of addiction: an inherent country theme throughout its existence.

    Josh may not be claiming to be an Outlaw, but that is what his label is marketing him as, and he may not have any say so about it.

    And yes, I am wholeheartedly, admittedly bias on this topic. I am fighting for what I believe in, the direction I think is best for country music. The industry and their fans fight back. I have nothing but respect for all these Josh Thompson fans who’ve come here to defend an artist they like, including the ones who have personally insulted me. Because they are just defending an artist they love, and that means that people still care about music.

    But understand, there is a whole other world that I represent. Read all the comments before this article went viral in Josh Thompson fandom. What I feel is what many people feel, and I am also not the only critic/writer to criticize this album.

    I wrote this article with a lot of passion, and I wrote it was weeks ago. Today, I would write a different article, and it probably would be a lot more tame. But the theme would be the same: Josh Thompson is the product of a marketing strategy, and must be stopped.

    It is well known that Rick Ruben let Johnny Cash pick what songs he would play on the American Recordings. It had nothing to do with marketing, at least at the song picking stage.

  66. Kate Says:

    Wait a minute. You’re crying over someone’s insults after you just attacked Josh like that? How dare you cry over someone doing that when you are doing the same exact thing. Boo hoo.

  67. ? Says:

    Wait. So Josh Thompson has to cheat on his wife, do drugs, and be a crappy father to be considered an outlaw?

  68. Jane Says:

    Okay, so you are a music critic. So with your article that you so eloquently tore Josh apart with, aren’t you making money, like marketing your material? Don’t tell me that country music hasn’t become a big business and with more competition, artists need a successful means of marketing their goods. I am not only a fan of country music but interested in “genuine” criticism of various artist music. Before you can criticize someone’s music you need to go and see his show. I am not a 20/30 something girly that swoons over Josh. I am married and have grown children. I know you said that your article would have been different if written now but it should be updated with a new review. I saw Josh in concert last week, many times, and feel that he isn’t pretending to be an outlaw. True he isn’t like Waylon, or the Hag but he is trying to attract fans to the country scene, which is good for all artists.

    I am not going to attack you because this is what you feel is right. That is what is good in this country, freedom of speech. But Josh didn’t need to be attacked by “David Lee”.
    That is truly scary that a person would even say such a thing.

    Jane

  69. The Triggerman Says:

    ?,

    No. Being a country has very little to do with personal behavior, or even what you sing about. The original Outlaws were known as such because they rebelled against the Nashville oligarchy that wants to control every aspect of an artists music. Clearly you don’t understand that, and Josh and the marketeers behind him don’t understand that either.

  70. The Triggerman Says:

    I don’t make any money off this website Jane, don’t you worry. This is not only not for profit, it is anti-profit. I do it for love of music.

    I criticized the material made available by Josh Thompson’s label; the videos above. When the album came out, I listened to it cover to cover, and my views about him didn’t change. If I get a chance to see him live, I will write a review of that as well.

    I think y’all would be served better by not making so many assumptions about me, this website, or my views on music in general, because so far you’re batting .000. You might want to stop thinking of me as some yahoo whose just flamethrowing anybody I want to make me feel better about myself or make money, and understand that there truly is a deep divide in country music today, and that I represent the views of thousands of others, and we are fighting mad about what is happening to an artform we love..

  71. Patti Says:

    I think…that it is awesome that there is so much music out there. Something for *everyone*. There are people who love pop (I don’t like it overall but there are a few good pop song songs out there). There are people who love metal, rock, rap, country (new and/or old). In general I like a little bit of everything. :) But “new” country is my passion. It was Eric Church who drew me to Country music. Before that it was 80’s hairbands lol.

    I kind of understand where you are coming from. Rock is the same way. Some people curse the newer acts because they aren’t the rolling stones, who, elvis, beatles.

    There is something for everyone. I truely believe that. But I think that sometimes people get defensive of “their” artists. Josh is a grown man - and quite honestly probably not as concerned with your reveiw as his fans are.

    I’ll be honest - there are a couple Josh supporters *here* that made me cringe a bit. Being nasty to you sure doesn’t represent Josh well. But I do think overall *most* of us have been kind…a bit defensive of Josh but not nasty.

    But I do completely believe in today’s music industry that the old time “outlaws” would not have made it. They would have been squashed. I’ve heard rumors of artists dropped from labels because they didn’t follow what was required….and get blacklisted. No labels, no gigs. Josh wants a career doing what he loves. I can’t blame him for bending.

    Have you *never* bent a bit at a job? *EVER*? Just asking.

    Again - I also don’t see Josh claiming to be an outlaw. Which seems to be the gist of your review….he sings that his love for music and his playing it is because of “Waylon and all them other outlaws”. Not “I’m an outlaw look at me i’m bad” lol. I’ve never read or seen anything with him claiming to be an outlaw. Ever.

    I’m just happy that there is so much variety in music :)

  72. Jane Says:

    Well Triggerman:

    It’s too bad that you are so very narrow-minded! I love listening to other artists as well as other genres but I certainly don’t slam them. Being a critic is learning from what you hear or read, not setting your mind to that which is one way or the highway!! I too have a website that is not for profit but I don’t expect all readers to take my side. As a critic you should feel obligated to do more research than what is provided by the label. We, the readers, only want you to be open-minded and understand that Josh never said he was like Waylon nor was he an Outlaw, only that they were his influences.

    You may represent the views of thousands of others but we represent the views of a man that we feel is a person first; not a money hungry marketeer, using Waylon and the Outlaws to draw attention.

    Jane

  73. J.r. Says:

    Triggerman:
    I only utilized the same tactics at the end of my article that you utilized throughout the entire article. Yet it seems that you try to use words against people to make yourself look better. I don’t even think a team of plastic surgeons could accomplish that,lol.

    I brought valid arguments and the only thing you could pick out of it was the same banter you used. Shows that a real writer your not. A real writer would’ve acknowledged the validity of my arguments and condemnded the insults. Yet not you, which is not a shock.
    Music is like beauty, although music is in the ear of the beholder. I do believe that when you wrote your critique, you were way harsh and have felt the backlash of true josh thompson fans, that understand his music and identify with him.

  74. Serialkiller Says:

    “Butter up maw biscuits baby”—— Yes, those lyrics really speak to me…. shallow, mindless, and lacking of any self respect or dignity………………….
    ………………………………. Thanks to this kind of bullshit today, country music fans are thought of as a bunch of inbred, buck-toothed retards. I mean no disrespect to anyone who has those problems, everyone has flaws, you just have to do the best you can.

  75. Jane Says:

    Serialkiller,

    You just showed your ignorance! Maybe some people like music that isn’t so harsh and realistic. With the economy these days people use music to escape from their problems. This music is fun… sorry that you think its bullshit!!

  76. Burch Says:

    “You said something bad about what I like so you’re ignorant, a douche, uneducated and you smell horrible.”

    The Internet circus goes round and round. Seems people want to boil this down to a “young versus old” thing, as if we’re all just a bunch of Waylon fans who piss on any kind of music that came out after 1980. The scope of the argument is far, far larger than that. This isn’t ripping on some earnest, talented young man just trying to make his way in the music world. Josh is being marketed as an outlaw by Nashville, whether it’s him or his team doing it is beside the point. And this was pointed out by more than just Triggerman on this blog, the freaking Associated Press mentioned it in their review of Josh and they’re the most mainstream news organization on the planet.

    Josh “making it” isn’t some argument to assert his validity, in fact it’s the point being made in the original article. There are literally thousands of real country acts playing, some going from one end of the country to the other (and beyond) on their own dime. They aren’t getting paid by record labels to do it and Jager or other corporate entities aren’t sponsoring their overpriced tours in cookie cutter venues. And the music these guys are playing happens to not only honor the traditions of the past legends of country but it also moves the genre forward in several refreshing new directions.

    No one around here is going to measure an artist’s success in terms of record sales, tour sponsors and the like. And no one around here is going to get into some guy playing generic music with barely any attachment to actual country. And when this guy panders to the outlaw crowd without actually knowing what outlaw is, it’s going to raise the ire of people.

    Everyone can keep arguing with each other, throwing around the “I’m open minded and listen to a lot of stuff” phrase and trying to discredit the person with a different viewpoint by using every nitpicking topic known to man. Or you can take a moment to realize that this is far from the only article posted on this site and that a greater perspective about what is being discussed can be found in those other articles. You can like what you like, but even though music tastes are subjective, there are objective and absolute themes that run throughout today’s music genres. And one of those themes is that what Nashville shills out as country music absolutely sucks.

  77. Joe Says:

    What puddle of Mudd is grunge is what this bastard is to outlaw country.

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  80. kent Says:

    the main problem with country now is that the brittany spears teens listen too. so instead of bringing these kids in with a distinct and different sound and feel, the powers that be change country music for them. they remake country into a sound and feel they already know. a worthless, meaningless form of pop music. in the process, they say times change and this is new, “modern” country. whats worse is the people who remember waylon, willie, and the way it used to be are almost told to piss off. As far as josh thompson, he aint a pimple on waylons ass. Its sad these dumbasses can use waylons name as a marketing tool but cant take the creative freedom he fought so hard for and use it to benifit their own career. So now we get yet another punk kid with all the same worn out gimmicks and stupid songs. oh, and ladies ,THIS is for you. where im from there are a million guys just like Josh thompson. The slick,hello ladies, my shit dont stink type. ’round here we call them cock blocks. and you cant trust them as far as you can throw them. keep hammering the point home triggerman. Your not the only one whose piss is boiling from this kid and new country in general.

  81. countryisawasteland Says:

    Country music has become a joke. Moron singers prattling on about how the love small town life. Its such a cliche : “I love God, Beer, Women, Small Towns, and Hank Williams (or Johnny Cash)” over and over. Nothing interesting or new. Country is lowest common denominator music for morons. Its garbage and not even worth saving anymore.

  82. D.J Thompson Says:

    Hey, Josh’s family would love to extend an invitation to anyone of you idiots that calls Josh a “Fake Outlaw.” Cliche…No shit. My family has struggled our entire lives. Josh works incredible hard, Supports every person around him, and stays so down to earth. Open your mouths in real lives and just see how “Fake” we are.

  83. The Triggerman Says:

    DJ,

    If Josh is family I would expect nothing less than for you to defend him. But country music is MY family, and so I am going to try to defend it as well.

  84. kent Says:

    Im sure Mr. Thompson works hard as most of us do. Im sure you struggle, as most of us do. And most decent people do support one person or another. But, there is real frustration at the gimmicks and crap out there that is being labeled country music. When you hear it, it sits in your gut like a rock. there is nothing that makes you think or moves you. its the same factory produced garbage. and one thing that people held on to as it got worse and worse was the outlaws. they couldnt be touched. It wasnt just songs, it was a feel. And now heres someone with the same factory made songs claiming outlaw. im sorry , it just isnt. The music the outlaws made despite being told no was what made them outlaws, and not how they acted. take it from someone who drank 2 bottles of J.D. a day for three years and burned his place down in the process, drinkin’ dont make you an outlaw. Drinking makes you an idiot. Ive officially given up on new country thanks to the latest instalment in crapfest, carrie underwood’s “undo it?”.
    I may be old fashioned but ive had enough. Stay on ‘em triggerman.

  85. Alex Says:

    To the Haters;
    The first time I heard Josh Thompson I actually couldn’t stand him. I head his first single “Beer on the Table” on the radio and had to call one of my buddies telling him how much I didn’t like this new guy from WI, (we happen to live in WI, so it was kind of cool to have someone from here, for lack of a better word, make it). Then we saw him on stage before Eric Church (who you most likely don’t care for either) and it was a great performance, and his songs were actually good, other than his first hit. We were not expected to like him, we wrote him off from what we had heard.
    As far as the outlaw thing goes, give it a break. There were only the original outlaws of country music and that is what there will always be. You cannot add more people and group them all together. No one will sound like they did and do the things they have done.

    Who would you say are the new outlaws of country if Josh isn’t? And please don’t put a bunch of no name people.

    Why is Josh’s somewhat groomed appearance a problem for people? Is he supposed to have a big scuzzy beard and wear ratty clothes? Who cares, thats the way he dresses, deal.

    I am kind of curious as to how this turned into a pissing match for some. Josh worked hard in concrete before he was in Nashville, but for some reason a few people act like that doesn’t matter and they work harder. You are supposed to relate to the song, or the type of songs being sung. Where does saying you have it harder really make sense?

    I can see, and do hear the argument of country being to pop, but I think Josh Thompson is a far cry from that group of artists.

  86. The Triggerman Says:

    You called it right Alex, I DO hate Eric Church too.

    Ever heard the name Hank Williams III? His grandad and dad, well, you can probably guess. His last two albums were #2 & #4 in the country charts. Can we call him a “no-name”? Good. That is a true example of a new Outlaw.

  87. Alex Says:

    So you need a country singer to act like its the 60’s singin that old tired tune?. That is the way country USED TO sound. Everything changes. Why would you want new music to sound pretty much the same as the old music? You could just get on album and call it a day and have no variety.

  88. The Triggerman Says:

    I would say Hank III stopped being a neo-traditionalist in 2005. His sound is quite new–a blend of classic country with punk/metal. And he never sounded like the 60’s. More the early 1950’s.

  89. theoldcrow13 Says:

    amen triggerman new outlaw my ass

  90. theoldcrow13 Says:

    amen triggerman new outlaw my ass i think this new outlaw bit has done got out of hand

  91. kent Says:

    First id like to say i dont give a damm if mr thompson worked in concrete or a burger joint. He worked. Big deal! It does’nt matter where or how hard. How does Where you work or what you worked in have anything to do with your talent as a country singer? We all could sit around and tell sob stories about the hellish places we worked and each and every one of us could come up with one worse than the guy before him. Does that qualify us for a pass if we go into country music? If it does, Well damn, sign me up. I dont care what he looks like, how he dresses or anything else. Its the sound i hear and what its presented as and how its presented that turns my stomache. its the same exact thing with a different wrapper. And whats worse is outlaw is being used as the wrapper. Second i firmly believe there can be real outlaws again. Waylon never wanted to be an outlaw or a rebel, he just wanted to express music in its truest form, from the heart and his way. Bucking the system earned him the outlaw title. If people would start saying no again and fight against the factory preduced country and show the differences, you can bet there would be outlaws again. If they can get a following and shake up the current system i think it would be a start to a much needed change in country music.

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