The Time Charlie Robison Excoriated a Nashville Label Head

The Texas/Red Dirt world is currently in mourning after the unexpected death of Charlie Robison. The 59-year-old passed away at a hospital in San Antonio due to cardiac arrest on September 10th. Leaving us at such a relatively young age, and with the way Charlie Robison songs soundtracked the lives of so many Texas music fans from all around the globe, this is one of those country music deaths that hits especially hard.
Over the last few days, fans and fellow artists have been sharing their memories and spinning Charlie Robison records, remembering a songwriter who was instrumental in building the Texas music scene. But along with recalling the great songs and the fond memories, it seems fitting for remember that Charlie Robison was also a fierce titan for independent country music and artists controlling their own destiny as opposed to adhering to the rules of Music Row.
Some of you might recall back in 2015 when the CEO of the Sony Nashville record label Gary Overton notoriously said in an interview with The Tennessean, “If you’re not on country radio, you don’t exist.” It was like a shot heard ’round the independent country world at a time when independent country was really beginning to gain steam. It was at the very height of Bro-Country, but scrappy independent artists were starting to rise up to challenge the system.
The Gary Overton quote was originally published on February 21st. But the week before, Blackberry Smoke shocked the country music world when their album Holding All The Roses debuted at #1 on the Billboard Country Albums chart off the strength of their grassroots success. Then the very next week, Texas music stalwart Aaron Watson shocked the world again by going #1 with his album aptly titled The Underdog.
When Saving Country Music interviewed Aaron Watson about his #1 success, he had his own quote to be remembered by history. “My name is Aaron Watson. I’m not played on country radio. And I have the #1 record in country music this week. I do exist.”
This success for Aaron Watson started opening doors for him that independent artists often didn’t have access to at the time. While in Nashville, Watson was invited to appear on The Bobby Bones Show. Bones was already vilified by quite a few in independent country, but nobody could fault Aaron Watson for taking advantage of the opportunity. But then Bobby Bones took advantage of the fact that Watson called one of the women that worked for Bobby “sweetheart” to say that Watson was a sexist.
So then all of this—the Gary Overton quote and the ludicrous “sexist” accusation against Aaron Watson—landed on the desk of Charlie Robison, and he was having none of it. Hot under the collar and out for blood, Charlie Robison took to social media to post one of the most wicked scorched earth excoriations in the history of country music.
A few words for Gary Overton. I was signed by Warner bros, and Sony during the days I had the patience to smile while ignorant pencil pushing, mullet headed expense account rapists like you ran those labels. I’m on the road right now and just finished putting on a show for the folks in Shreveport. That’s a town u call a blip on ur screen.
I don’t know Aaron Watson well but I do know you well though I’ve never met you. What I know about you is so sad. I spent so many years in Nashville watching you ignorant wastes of space sit behind your big desk and act like me and all the the Texas/Red dirt artists don’t exist. Well Mr. “I have a job today but as soon as Florida/Georgia line goes out of style, and believe me dumbass they will, you will not exist.” Saying that music does not exist unless it’s on the radio is like saying you don’t exist because you never got laid until you got your two week job as the head of Walmart Records.
I probably have a bigger house than you (for the time being because you’ll be back in the Mail room like all the other Nashville (heads). I’ll still be playing for crowds that have been loyal to me for 25 years) lemme cut you in on some people who don’t exist. Willie Nelson, Billy joe Shaver, Robert Keen, Vincent Van Gogh and Picasso didn’t exist for a long time. Guy Clark, Lyle Lovett, and the ever terrible songwriter Steve Earle. When the world of music fans go to bed tonight they’ll be singing these amazing artists in their head. You my friend will be wondering how you could ever reach your unreachable place in the annals of mediocrity. Have fun hovering above your tombstone and listening to people say “who the fuck is that?” as they make they’re way to Townes’s grave. I’m sorry I lost my train of thought, I think it was “who doesn’t exist?” Yep that’s it gary overton. Sweetheart.
Yes ladies and gentlemen, this might have been the greatest mic drop moment in country music history. The rant immediately went viral, with Bro-Country kings Florida Georgia Line chiming in, saying “Lost a lot of respect for a great songwriter Charlie Robison today. The country music community has always been about respect and support. May we never live in bitterness towards the ever evolving genre that’s been so good to us.”
But many more agreed with Robison, and potentially, it became one of the kill shots for the career of Sony Nashville’s Gary Overton. Though the label and others insisted it had nothing to do with the backlash to the quote, Gary Overton announced his resignation on March 17th—only a few weeks after his original quote was published, and in the midst of the continuing fallout from it.
On March 20th, Saving Country Music talked to Charlie Robison about his rant and the aftermath, asking him if it was satisfying.
Yeah it really is, and not just for me. It was a shot across the bow at me, my ex-wife, my brother, and everybody else that has been bullied by these guys for so long. It kind of happened accidentally after a show one night. I wrote that initial rant if you will just really pissed off, more so for other independent artists that I’m a fan of. It more pissed me off that someone could say something like that about my peers or people that I have looked up to all my life and think they could get away with it.
These days with social media, you’re not going to be able to say anything or do anything without someone calling you on it, and I just happened to be the guy that called him on it. I thought I was going to wake up the next morning and see 50 ‘likes’ and that’s all there was going to be to it. I had no earthly idea that Florida Georgia Line was going to jump in the mix and that this was going to end up maybe forcing him out of his position as president [of Sony Nashville]. You know, I feel for his family, but to tell you the truth, I really don’t give a shit about him.
Charlie Robison’s rant was one of the many things that helped set off the independent country music revolution that we are currently in the midst of. It helped galvanize country fans against the mainstream country system and the oligarchical control of country radio. Artists like Sturgill Simpson, Jason Isbell, and Cody Jinks joined in upsetting the apple cart, which led to the wild success were seeing from Tyler Childers, Billy Strings, and Zach Bryan today.
It was later in 2015 at November’s CMA Awards that despite the continued commercial success of Bro-Country and acts like Florida Georgia Line, a relative unknown artist at the time named Chris Stapleton walked away with many of the major awards despite receiving no love from radio himself, and barely selling any albums, officially signaling the end of the Bro-Country era, and the emergence of artists who didn’t need radio for success.
Charlie Robison said at one point in his epic rant to Gary Overton, “Have fun hovering above your tombstone and listening to people say “who the fuck is that?” as they make they’re way to Townes’s grave.”
And many of those same people will be making their way to Charlie Robison’s grave in the coming years to mourn the loss of a man who contributed greatly to the Texas music canon, and was also unafraid to stand up for himself and all his peers.
Charlie Robison is gone too soon. But just like Townes, he will never be forgotten.
September 12, 2023 @ 8:15 am
What’s old Gary Overton up to these days?
September 12, 2023 @ 3:44 pm
It’s as if he doesn’t exist…
September 12, 2023 @ 9:18 am
Man I remember this fondly. Charlie was never a man to mince words and he gave a voice to so many that felt the same way as him with that rant. It really was the spark that ignited the fire of the independent country revolution that was about to come. God Bless Charlie! He was Texan to the bone!
September 12, 2023 @ 9:22 am
Not missed on me is that Charlie and Townes Van Zandt are mentioned together in the same article about awesome Texas singer songwriters. Well done…and Hook ‘Em!
September 12, 2023 @ 9:35 am
Aaron Watson is one of the nicest, most polite people I’ve ever met. Fuck Bobby Bones.
September 12, 2023 @ 9:56 am
We will see you when we get there Charlie. Thanks for always being a straight shooter. The music lives on.
September 12, 2023 @ 11:17 am
Off topic, but noticed Joe Rogan wearing an awesome Ellis Bullard shirt on the latest clip posted on YouTube.
September 12, 2023 @ 1:11 pm
Robison outlasted FGL.
September 12, 2023 @ 1:15 pm
I never got to see Charlie live but I wore out his live album. What an awesome story teller he was.
September 12, 2023 @ 3:48 pm
I was fortunate enough to see Charlie several times, including the show in Shreveport he mentioned. He always kicked ass no matter the size of the crowd.
September 12, 2023 @ 1:42 pm
RIP Charlie, I always enjoyed the humorous swagger of his early work. The trend to dictate the status of country music is nothing new. According to the New York Times, country music was declared dead on September 17th, 1985. This was right before the huge breakout of Randy Travis. In fact, his “On the Other Hand” originally stalled out before being reissued a few months later to become the megahit it did. Also, both Georges were going strong as was Merle and Willie. Although the mid 80s was an interesting time in country, it still was country. So I say let the know-it-alls say what the trends should be, but let the fans make the actual call on that and prove how wrong they are.
September 12, 2023 @ 1:45 pm
A legend!
‘And sometimes they let me look up at that East Texas sky
And the rain on the pines, oh Lord, how it shines
Like my darling’s little diamond in the lights of loving county.’
September 12, 2023 @ 2:22 pm
When it came to knocking Overton off his perch, you might say Charlie was
The right man
The right man
The right man
The right man for the job.
September 12, 2023 @ 2:56 pm
Charlie was right. Aaron’s career is still thriving…and where is FGL? That’s right. Disbanded and thrown in the country music trash can.
RIP, Charlie. Thanks for the music 💜
September 12, 2023 @ 4:14 pm
What’s up, Trigger. Did you hear Zach Top already? It’s a new young country singer of neo traditional country. I loved the style of his music, it has an Alan Jackson vibe.
September 13, 2023 @ 11:06 am
Yes, I’m aware of Zach Top. I’m sure I’ll be writing about him sooner than later. Just waiting for the best opportunity.
September 17, 2023 @ 11:53 am
Great!
September 14, 2023 @ 4:56 pm
What is Zach Top doing? I was very impressed with Modern tradition, saw them live twice, but havn’t seen them since 2019 I think. I want more of this!
September 22, 2023 @ 7:33 pm
Zach Top is too country for this website.
September 12, 2023 @ 7:38 pm
I was born in 2004, saw him in 2006, 2008. 2009, 2011, 2012 and 2015 and met him after the show 3 of those times. In 2015 we asked a friend worker at the small little Linden Texas venue if he was doing autographs and meeting but he had the flu and still played but didn’t feel like doing the meet and greet. She took a shirt I had and took it to him in the back and he signed and addressed it to me and everything. He was always so genuine and nice, there’s a picture of him holding me when I was 5 after one of his concerts. He was a huge part of my childhood and the biggest part musically and this one hits a bit personal. My parents saw him yearly in Gruene at Gruene Hall. The year they divorced he retired. The year my dad’s remarrying he passed away. Strange.
R.I.P
September 12, 2023 @ 9:16 pm
I got so torn up (and slightly inebriated) last night after I heard this I almost contacted my ex-girl from 20 years back, who also loved Charlie Robison. Glad I dozed off before making that mistake. God dang, CR was good. Best outta Texas and Oklahoma of his era IMO, no disrespect to many other good ones from back then.
That was one badass man back in the day. Dixie Chick by his side, rocking the Cotton Bowl with his awesome tunes and telling Nashville to get fucked. The dude could also write as cleverly as Ray Wylie Hubbard and had STYLE. He’ll be missed.
September 13, 2023 @ 3:36 am
It is interesting to me that the New York Times declared country music as being dead in 1985. Alabama, George Strait, and especially Hank Williams Jr. were huge at that point. Then again, what does the New York Times know about country music…
September 13, 2023 @ 7:42 am
I opened for Bobby Helms in the late eighties and early nineties. We spent a lot of time together and he was extremely bitter about the Grand Ole Opera and their monopoly in country music. When Bobby became if not the first cross over artist with “Special Angle” those folks pretty much tried to drive him out of the country music scene in Nashville.
September 13, 2023 @ 9:55 am
My favorite memory’s a little add because I only know a few of his songs. He was a GAC host when Todd Snider played acoustic in studio. “New Connection” era. I remember they spent most of the episode talking about real music. I could read between the lines!
September 13, 2023 @ 5:59 pm
I have been going back through his catalog.
Robison had that songwriting wit and humor that is sadly missing in today’s country music ( Nashville or independent).